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Old 05-25-2006, 06:32 PM
Alan Goehring Alan Goehring is offline
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Default Re: No LA Poker Classic thread?

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That K8 call was donk-tacular.

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If by donk-tacular you mean +EV, I agree.

Two key points:
1. The binds were 250k/500k/50k ante, so we were playing at about 10-12x BB. At 10x BB, if you play optimally against someone who moves all-in every hand (without looking at their cards), you will win 51% or 52% of the time, depending on who started with the big blind. So, gaining a significant edge by "outplaying" an experienced opponent is simply not a viable option with such large blinds (i.e. in "crapshoot" territory).

2. After the blinds increased, Daniel Quach moved all-in 5 of the 10 times he had the button, or one-half the time. He was in "all-in" mode, as a good player should be with the large blinds.

My thinking was that if he is moving all-in half the time, I should call with any hand in the top quartile of all hands, of which K8o is right on the border. With $1.1mm of dead money, I was getting slightly better than 6:5 odds, meaning I needed to be 45.45%+ to win.

Furthermore, we had almost the exact situation on the last hand of the most recent WPT event (Mirage May 2006). Stan raised to $1mm (pot committing himself), and Harry moved all-in (about $1.2-1.3mm more, which was 11-12BB's total) with K6o. Harry risked all his chips (more than 10bb's) with a lowly K6o, knowing he would get called, and I see nothing wrong with his play.

For those who think it was a bad call, I would like to know what your standards (i.e. threshold hands)would have been in my situation? (not that I would ever change my opinion)

Don't feel bad, Mike Sexton, Mike Matusow, and others also thought it was an awful play. I do like the word "Donk-tacular". Although it looked like I played terrible, every play I made at the FT was the correct play for me based on my "overall integrated strategy", which I am not going to expalin.
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