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Old 05-03-2006, 05:28 PM
Xellos Xellos is offline
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Default Re: Any Questions??

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Just be assured that doing that on a regular basis costs you money in the long run...not to mention a set of dueces is more susceptible to losing to mo' bigga sets (obviously) etc.

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Men really don't pay attention very well....
I never said I do that on a regular basis, you guys just reconfirmed why I do not post on strategy forum. If you were not physically sitting at my table at that given moment, your opinion is irrelevant. I can care less what other people think about my playing, I won a pot over $2k with a risk of $240.

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Jean -

I'm not trying to tell you what you should have done here. I'm just trying to explain what the others are saying.

See, you won a $2k pot. Great. But you probably put in $800 or more into that pot (granted, most of it was while you had a set, and thus were way ahead, which is good). But this means that you WON $1200. Your profit was about $1200.

So, lets say that you'll win $1200 when you flop a set and NEVER LOSE. Obviously, this won't happen, but it's sorta a 'best case scenario' for you. You risked $240 to win $1200. You got 5:1 on your money. However, the odds of flopping a set are 7.5:1.

Now, you may think "but the odds of flopping, turning, or rivering a set is more like 4:1", and that's true. However, if you are committed to going to the river without a set, then your investment will be substantially more than just $240.

Soooooo, best case scenario (sets never lose), you'll get about 5:1 on worse than a 7:1 shot. If I had an 8 sided dice, and said "Jean, when I roll a 2, I'll give you $1000, but for every other number I roll, you owe me $200", would you do it? I sure hope the answer is "no way". But that's really what you are doing by calling the 3 bets cold w/ 22.

That's why people here are giving you a hard time. This is really glossing over some of the bigger negative aspects, as well. The initial raiser could 4-bet and then it could be capped, and you'd be stuck putting in $400 preflop. If you lose, you'll end up losing well over $1000 (because there will be a ton of raising and reraising if it's set over set, etc).

Again, play it or not, that's your decision, and that's what makes poker awesome. I just wanted to shed some light on why the guys here are giving you such a hard time.

Josh

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Josh,

You have played some hours with me, especially when I was first learning and was absoulutely horrible. But I still managed to win, sad but true.
I understand the whole mathematics to poker. I'm not saying what I did was right. I put in so many hours into live poker that I see certain hands that constantly win within a session. Don't tell me that you never sat at a table where, for example, KJ wins alot of pots, cracking Aces and alot of other hands. Did anyone bother to read that I had flopped a set with deuces 3 times within 2 days, which was very profitable?? Which is why I decided to play the hand. Whether you want to believe it or not, poker also has a luck factor. I'm just letting you know my personal experiences, I don't expect anyone else to understand it. I shouldn't get criticized for a play I made once.

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Wow.
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