Hand (large pot)

[krishan]

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls, Hero ...

And the questions is in addition to the turn action, did my hand get worse or better on the turn? And did I make a mistake on the flop?

Krishan

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I think I raise here. I'm not convinced that you're behind because the only hands that are helped by the ace (helped = made a stronger hand than yours, not picking up a draw) are AA, KQ, AJ, AT, A8. I don't think you were chasing on the flop (and I like the wait-for-the-turn call being last to act), so only a few hands actually improved with the ace.

However, it's a scary card for you because it has given tons of redraws to all sorts of hands. AK has a two pair redraw, any king or queen picked up a gutshot. And given a reasonable set of preflop raising hands from SB, I think he has one of those hands that picked up a draw against you. Somebody might have picked up two draws on that turn, if they held two clubs.

What about the donks in the middle? I would imagine they have either a nine or a painted card. Either way, I don't think they have you beat.

A raise here for value, even with lots of players drawing against you is a good play. I think you've got the best hand and let the river bring whatever it brings. I think I would squeeze a river value bet on any brick if it gets checked to me. Too many worse hands will call because the pot is big and their hands are reasonable.

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Excellent analysis. I did raise, all called. I bet the river and won. (I was ahead on the turn) Here is a link to the thread in HUSH and what people there had to say about it.
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Krishan