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Old 10-19-2007, 04:07 AM
ciro bonano ciro bonano is offline
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Default [50NL] AA 4way

Carlos Poker 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button Button ($35.46)
SB <font color="#C00000">SB ($100.00)</font>
BB <font color="#C00000">Hero ($50.00)</font>
UTG ($50.00)
UTG+1 ($24.80)
CO <font color="#C00000">CO ($18.32)</font>

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG checks, 1 fold, CO calls 0.50, Button calls 0.50, SB calls 0.25, Hero raises to 3.50, 1 fold, CO calls 3.50, Button calls 3.50, SB calls 3.50.

Flop (17.50) Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero bets 13.00, CO moves all-in for 15.16, 1 fold, SB moves all-in for 96.00, Hero .. ($36 behind)

SB is 17/11/2.3 over ~200 hands (datamined). I feel my hand is faceup after my flop bet into 3 people but he still pushes..
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

Fold
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

Who is villain and what are the stats and reads.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:19 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

It would hurt me, but I'd find the fold. And it would only hurt me because folding aces always hurts me. But you have to always remember that it's only top pair.
Nice preflop raise. Seriously, I'm tired of hands where premium guys limped in or made a weak raise and then complain about how they got in a 5 way pot and have difficult decisions to make.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

Ye fold to these stats. Easy.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:37 AM
DblBarrelJ DblBarrelJ is offline
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

Pretty easy fold, if SB a decent player, and you feel your hand is face up, you're probably right. I'd say his range is pretty narrow, given his pf play. I don't see a player with those stats making that play with anything less than 2 pair, with 55 or 66 more likely. You're beat.

And I'm saying that with the assumption that he probably isn't going to play QQ that way pf, which, if I'm wrong, makes you even more dead.

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Old 10-19-2007, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

I can fold this here, board is dry and villian is nitty enough factors to lay this down.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

Hes too tight for you to have him beat so i fold
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

so AQ in an isolation play against shortstack is just not possible here?
and I dont get how this hand is "face up"... you raise a bunch of limpers and then bet on the flop... (OMG HE BET THE FLOP HE OBV HAS AA) that just doesnt make sense. I guess i could see 55-66 here fairly easily... but would you think that villian would rather try and keep hero in the pot if he has such a powerful hand?
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: [50NL] AA 4way

To play AQ this way (which is basically the only thing we beat, unless the villain is getting fancy with some kind of midpair) would be pretty odd for this solid of a player. I don't think villain calls limpers, calls the raise, then c/r the flop with AQ.
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