Cheating at AP, updated cliff notes

[Alobar]

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If you look at the buyin, number of entrants, and payout for 1st, its clear that most if not all of the wins were actual first place, unique wins.

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why is he playing such small buyings? I mean I get you couldnt do this in a bunch of big tournies, but why waste several hours in a .25 cent buyin tourny to win $5? You could just play a couple hands of midstakes and fly just as far under the radar and make a lot more money in way less time

maybe it was just practice or something???

[jcsmitty22]

LOl for the last time im not an inside source... im from pocket fives and i never post on here cuz its impossible to navigate but i felt i had to come out and say this because I mentioned it to Nat before but never said anything publicly becuz I didnt think it would matter... i thought it was pretty clear they were cheating and didnt need MORE evidence

[MicroBob]

I think pretty much everyone in this thread is mostly aviding AP now.
And even with all the 2+2'ers here staying away they still have a couple games of limit 30/60 going on and 4 games of 10/20 along with a bunch of 5/10 and 3/6.

On the NL side there is 1 HU gsme at 25/50 and another at 15/30.
A bunch all the way down to 2/4.

256 players in their current $50 buy-in $10k guaranteed MTT so they don't even have an overlay there.

There are 21k players online right now although that probably includes play-money also of course.


IOW - even with all the 2+2'ers staying away as I assume most are currently, it probably hasn't had that much of an impact on their games.

In fact, some saavy and less-principled 2+2'er risk-takers who trust that AP won;t just eat their money may actually be MORE interested in playing there now if the absence of so many 2+2'ers leads to significantly softer games.

[gumpzilla]

Can we figure out all the winners of that $500 weekly from POTRIPPER on and look at them?

[Alobar]

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im from pocket fives and i never post on here cuz its impossible to navigate

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sorry, I cant resist..

LOL!!

[aaronbeen]

I'm pretty sure this is a false alarm we had this discussion about $500 winners and how many of them are satellite qualifiers on p5s already...

[adanthar]

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Can we figure out all the winners of that $500 weekly from POTRIPPER on and look at them?

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already been done, PAYUP is on the list obv

[Cruzincat]

Does the database only show tourneys? If you can get info on the cash games, shortly after the big wins, you might see big cash game losses, indicating dumping.

[Kimbell175113]

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LOl for the last time im not an inside source... im from pocket fives and i never post on here cuz its impossible to navigate but i felt i had to come out and say this because I mentioned it to Nat before but never said anything publicly becuz I didnt think it would matter... i thought it was pretty clear they were cheating and didnt need MORE evidence

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use flat mode

[gumpzilla]

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I'm pretty sure this is a false alarm we had this discussion about $500 winners and how many of them are satellite qualifiers on p5s already...

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So oscar and kohleppel had been noted and ignored? Really?