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#21
10-01-2007, 11:41 AM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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350-75=275 275/800= 0.34 = bet/call [/ QUOTE ] thanks, so this is def +EV, but if he is calling or shoving with90% of his range (he's certainly not calling a 3-bet oop with suited connectors or low pp's) could checking be more +EV? 
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#22
10-01-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
With that read of yours just fold preflop? As for the question above, do some math.. but since everyone seem to bet this flop I wouldn't even think about any other alternative.
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#23
10-01-2007, 11:52 AM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
If you think his range is as tight as you say it is, then this is a super easy check behind.
However if you figure his range is wide enough that you have some fold equity on this board then bet like 80% pot and call a shove.
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#25
10-01-2007, 01:48 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
If he is that tight preflop, WHY THE HELL are you 3-betting him? You should never 3-bet this hand if you are not able to play it aggressively postflop, even unimproved (this flop is great for your hand though).
As for the metagame of checking behind here, since this is early in your session and you don't have any history, I would rather do the check back with AA the first time this situation occurs. He is most likely to assume you are scared taking this line, and you won't be able to call a big turnbet profitably.
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#27
10-01-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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If he is that tight preflop, WHY THE HELL are you 3-betting him? You should never 3-bet this hand if you are not able to play it aggressively postflop, even unimproved (this flop is great for your hand though). As for the metagame of checking behind here, since this is early in your session and you don't have any history, I would rather do the check back with AA the first time this situation occurs. He is most likely to assume you are scared taking this line, and you won't be able to call a big turnbet profitably. [/ QUOTE ]
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#28
10-01-2007, 03:18 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] What are you doing 3betting this hand if you don't even know what to do on the simplest flop? [/ QUOTE ] tell me how is it the simplest flop? I don't want to just hear 'bet', i want to hear how you react to a shove which is pretty likely given his tight range [/ QUOTE ] you dont know what to do because you flopped a decent draw against a tight player in a RR'd pot. Did you only 3bet hoping to take it down preflop? Why did you 3bet a nit with 56s? I really would like to hear your answer. I dont mean this to be retorical, actually want to hear your reasoning.
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#29
10-01-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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If he is that tight preflop, WHY THE HELL are you 3-betting him? You should never 3-bet this hand if you are not able to play it aggressively postflop, even unimproved (this flop is great for your hand though). As for the metagame of checking behind here, since this is early in your session and you don't have any history, I would rather do the check back with AA the first time this situation occurs. He is most likely to assume you are scared taking this line, and you won't be able to call a big turnbet profitably. [/ QUOTE ] ehm hes 19/17, hes opening quite a few hands from CO, 3betting here is fine. Its also good for shania. People saying this is a bet/call are prob correct but its close because he probably has a big pair here quite often esp since its one of the first 3bets in the session.
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#30
10-01-2007, 03:30 PM
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Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot
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[ QUOTE ] If he is that tight preflop, WHY THE HELL are you 3-betting him? You should never 3-bet this hand if you are not able to play it aggressively postflop, even unimproved (this flop is great for your hand though). As for the metagame of checking behind here, since this is early in your session and you don't have any history, I would rather do the check back with AA the first time this situation occurs. He is most likely to assume you are scared taking this line, and you won't be able to call a big turnbet profitably. [/ QUOTE ] ehm hes 19/17, hes opening quite a few hands from CO, 3betting here is fine. Its also good for shania. People saying this is a bet/call are prob correct but its close because he probably has a big pair here quite often esp since its one of the first 3bets in the session. [/ QUOTE ] We are talking about like 1-2% so it's close [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] But then we get a nice bluffy image so easy bet/call
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