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Old 03-13-2006, 02:31 AM
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Default Stars $11 Rebuy aq with a raise behind

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t45875)
MP3 (t58020)
CO (t25246)
Hero (t54555)
SB (t47189)
BB (t26435)
UTG (t52186)
UTG+1 (t51520)
MP1 (t52064)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t1600, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t6475</font>, <font color="#666666"> Hero?</font>

No reads on the raiser just got moved to the table do I shove or do I fold?
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:16 AM
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:20 AM
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Default Re: Stars $11 Rebuy aq with a raise behind

I fold all these situations early when I'm moved to a new table, simply to learn more about my villains.
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Stars $11 Rebuy aq with a raise behind

the UTG limp and the raise and the fact you are Sgt. Schultz right now = fold.
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Old 03-14-2006, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Stars $11 Rebuy aq with a raise behind

Am I stupid for thinking a push is a bad play at this stage of the tournament?
UTG might have a big pair but he might not (I've seen lots of strange UTG limps at this stage, SCs, small pairs, Ax). CO certainly doesn't think so and does not need a dominating hand to raise you, and might raise with worse. Factor in FE and an argument can be made for a push.
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: Stars $11 Rebuy aq with a raise behind

I probally should have mentioned this in the OP but I've played a fair amount with the UTG limper and he can be limping a huge range I'm really not worried about him having a big pair.
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Old 03-14-2006, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: Stars $11 Rebuy aq with a raise behind

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Am I stupid for thinking a push is a bad play at this stage of the tournament?
UTG might have a big pair but he might not (I've seen lots of strange UTG limps at this stage, SCs, small pairs, Ax). CO certainly doesn't think so and does not need a dominating hand to raise you, and might raise with worse. Factor in FE and an argument can be made for a push.

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I can see several different ways that this could be played, not sure what is the most +EV. I do think that you are overestimating FE when villain has 1/4 of his stack invested. Maybe 20-30% ish. Maybe less.
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Old 03-14-2006, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: Stars $11 Rebuy aq with a raise behind

Borderline, I think. It becomes much easier if:

- The raiser is at all aggressive/thinking. If he may be pwning the limper, I shove this without a moment's hesitation.

-The raise were not such a large portion of his stack. It doesn't want a call, but it's large enough that I don't know that you have as much FE as you'd like.

Anyone want to take a flop in position? It's over 10% of your stack, so probably not, but I thought I'd ask.
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