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  #861  
Old 09-10-2007, 04:39 PM
futuredoc85 futuredoc85 is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

micro, not at all retarded, and thats why IMO you dont raise this river unless you're confident that you have at least a pretty good idea of a river pushing range. Ill go into more detail in a few minutes, im hungry right now.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

I'm beginning to question my standard play in spots like this. Villain is 31/24/5 over 30 hands.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $121.30
BB: $83.95
UTG: $177.70
Hero (MP): $100.00
CO: $76.90
BTN: $99.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $18.00</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

blackize,

With his stack anything you do is going to be pretty committing.

He could have a draw, a set, or top pair here. You are probably a little favorite over his range. Will he get the money in with enough of his range? Really hard to say. I see people get it in here with A8 all the time, but you don't have to discount his weaker hands a whole lot before you're in bad shape.

It's not like you were a button raiser and he's putting you on crap. It's not like you've been playing him for a long time and cbetting the hell out of him.

Still 31/24 doesn't look like a set miner.

shrug
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:06 PM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($84.65)
Hero ($48)
MP ($24.95)
Button ($25.50)
SB ($49.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($6.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $22.95</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $23.5</font>, Hero calls $19.

Turn: ($76.70) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: ($76.70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: $76.70

just sat down 2 orbits ago, so no reads. standard? fold pf?
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

dipstik,

That smells like team spirit. I mean bbv.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:35 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
I'm beginning to question my standard play in spots like this. Villain is 31/24/5 over 30 hands.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $121.30
BB: $83.95
UTG: $177.70
Hero (MP): $100.00
CO: $76.90
BTN: $99.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($8.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $18.00</font>, Hero ???

[/ QUOTE ]

unless he just forgot to reload or something i felt this flop like 100% of the time. calling and shoving a blank turn is ok too.
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

re: JJ hand - 31/24/5, even over 30 hands, is enough for me to get it all in there.

you stack 99/TT, and villain could have a bunch of other stuff as well.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Yeah I realized after I posted it that aside from folding there is basically no wrong answer. If the board is drier, say rainbow, I take it I have to try to get to showdown on the cheap?
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

Villain is a drooler, he just got his stack from this hand

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $230.60
BB: $600.00
UTG: $810.25
Hero (CO): $774.25
BTN: $1,010.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $21.00, BB folds

Flop: ($54) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $40.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $206.60</font>, Hero calls $166.60

Turn: ($467.20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($467.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $467.20 ($2 Rake)

SB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a straight, Six to Ten) and WON (+$234.60)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$230.60)


on to the hand in question:
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $947.20
BB: $111.00
UTG: $617.40
Hero (CO): $1,080.00
BTN: $625.60

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $6.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $947.20</font>, 2 folds, Hero

i guess this may be an ez call but i honestly havent seen someone do this in so long i had no clue what kind of range to give him.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

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i had no clue what kind of range to give him.

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one that your ahead of then call call call
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