** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

[Renton]

i am, but 2/4 is more +ev for me, hence making it pointless for me to play higher at this point

[GrandMelon]

Man did I get handed a bunch of stacks today, was up 5 buyins with KK alone.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $483.00
BB: $395.10
Hero (UTG): $900.70
UTG+1: $438.05
MP1: $1,275.20
MP2: $520.90
CO: $194.00
BTN: $287.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls $16.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($38) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $28.00</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $56.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $168.00</font>, MP2 calls $112.00

Turn: ($374) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $640.00</font>, MP2 calls all-in for $336.90
Uncalled bet of $303.10 returned to Hero

River: ($1047.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,047.80 ($3 Rake)

MP2 had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$520.90)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Fives) and WON (+$523.90)


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $607.85
BB: $409.30
Hero (UTG): $400.00
UTG+1: $178.60
MP: $223.10
CO: $369.05
BTN: $289.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $34.00</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $18.00

Flop: ($72) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $32.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $124.00</font>, SB calls $92.00

Turn: ($320) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $242.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $242.00

River: ($804) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $804.00 ($3 Rake)

SB had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$400.00)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON (+$401.00)


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $862.60
BB: $432.30
UTG: $410.00
UTG+1: $487.35
MP1: $189.50
MP2: $390.00
MP3: $400.00
CO: $406.75
BTN: $114.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $4.00, <font color="red">MP3 raises to $20.00</font>, CO calls $20.00, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $68.00</font>, 2 folds, MP3 calls $48.00, CO calls $48.00

Flop: ($212) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $116.00</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $232.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $664.00</font>, CO calls all-in for $106.75
Uncalled bet of $325.25 returned to Hero

Turn: ($889.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($889.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $889.50 ($3 Rake)

CO had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$406.75)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Threes) and WON (+$479.75)


For once wobblyau doesnt suck out on me

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $146.00
Hero (BB): $416.30
UTG: $454.80
UTG+1: $406.00
MP: $192.00
CO: $1,261.80
BTN: $424.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $16.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $52.00</font>, BTN calls $36.00

Flop: ($106) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $72.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $372.50</font>, Hero calls all-in for $292.30
Uncalled bet of $8.20 returned to BTN

Turn: ($834.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($834.60) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $834.60 ($3 Rake)

BTN had 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$416.30)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Jacks) and WON (+$415.30)


[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] slowplayers

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $296.00
BB: $493.00
Hero (UTG): $536.20
UTG+1: $135.20
MP1: $484.05
MP2: $1,216.20
CO: $415.30
BTN: $353.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, 4 folds, BTN calls $16.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($38) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $24.00</font>, BTN calls $24.00

Turn: ($86) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $68.00</font>, BTN calls $68.00

River: ($222) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $312.00</font>, BTN calls all-in for $245.50
Uncalled bet of $66.50 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $713.00 ($3 Rake)

BTN had T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$353.50)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Ten to Ace) and WON (+$356.50)

[Larude]

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Hey Larude. Play The Main's challenge.

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Yeah would luv to but the games start a littlebit to late for me (I am a donk European). By the way **** the euro/dollar rate; that is a big rake for me...

[wateronrock]

Can anyone tell me the difference between ptb(?) and BB/100 hands?

[the_main]

ptbb is the way in which pokertracker(pt) calulates your winrate. ptbb/100 is like a big bet in limit (2x the big blind in NL).

[wateronrock]

Now I'm really confused [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

So BB/100 hands is half of ptbb? What would be a solid win rate for 100NL or 200NL in BB's/100 hands?(ballpark)

Thanks for your help main.

[boston]

i try shooting for 5 ptbb/100

[Mike Kelley]

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I am a donk [/b]

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FYP [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[the_main]

[ QUOTE ]

Now I'm really confused [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

So BB/100 hands is half of ptbb? What would be a solid win rate for 100NL or 200NL in BB's/100 hands?(ballpark)

Thanks for your help main.

[/ QUOTE ]

ok. In 200NL, the bigblind is $2. If you made $10(5bigblinds's) every hundred hands, your rate would be 5bb/100.

A ptbb is half that --&gt; 2.5ptbb/100

Its such an arbitrary measurement, and really only makes sense for limit (where they have a bigbet). I don't like to use ptbb, but it seems 90% of people do so whatever.

I 12 table and think a decent rate is anything around 2bb/100. But you should be aiming for something between 5-8bb/100. I think anything above that is amazing.

note: in your preferences in PT, you can change it to display bb/100 instead of ptbb.

[boston]

Im a idiot in my post i meant just BB instead of ptbb