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Old 03-11-2006, 03:28 PM
Marat Marat is offline
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Default 2/4 KJs and KTs played passive?

Hi,
can somebody check my play?Thanks all a lot.

Hand #1

PartyPoker - $2/$4 Texas - 10 players (Converter: PGC)

SB is 50/0/3.0 (6)
UTG is 33/17/0.5 (6)

Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

PreFlop
<font color="green">UTG Calls</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="blue">LP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero RAISES</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
<font color="red">SB RAISES</font>, <font color="blue">BB folds</font>, <font color="green">UTG Calls</font>, <font color="green">Hero Calls</font>

(3 players) FLOP: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: 5 BB )
<font color="red">SB BETS</font>, <font color="green">UTG Calls</font>, <font color="green">Hero Calls</font>

(3 players) TURN: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: 6.5 BB )
<font color="red">SB BETS</font>, <font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="green">Hero Calls</font>

(2 players) RIVER: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: 8.5 BB )
<font color="red">SB BETS</font>, <font color="green">Hero Calls</font>

Final Pot:10.5 BB


Hand #2

PartyPoker - $2/$4 Texas - 10 players (Converter: PGC)

Button is 21/7/0.4 (14)
LP1 is 43/21/1.8 (14)

Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="green">Hero Calls</font>, <font color="blue">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="green">LP1 Calls</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Button RAISES</font>
<font color="blue">SB folds</font>, <font color="blue">BB folds</font>, <font color="green">Hero Calls</font>, <font color="green">LP1 Calls</font>

(3 players) FLOP: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: 3.75 BB )
<font color="green">Hero checks</font>, <font color="red">LP1 BETS</font>, <font color="green">Button Calls</font>
<font color="green">Hero Calls</font>

(3 players) TURN: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: 5.25 BB )
<font color="green">Hero checks</font>, <font color="red">LP1 BETS</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
<font color="green">Hero Calls</font>

(2 players) RIVER: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: 7.25 BB )
<font color="green">Hero checks</font>, <font color="red">LP1 BETS</font>
<font color="green">Hero Calls</font>

Final Pot:9.25 BB
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Old 03-11-2006, 03:45 PM
awebz awebz is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 KJs and KTs played passive?

Hand 1, I think you can safely fold the flop.
Hand 2, raise preflop from MP2. as it is, I like leading the flop better than c/c. it's hard to say because if you would have raised preflop the hand would play differently.
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Old 03-11-2006, 03:51 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 KJs and KTs played passive?

Hand #1 is good. The only suspect question is whether to call the river.

In hand #2, you should be raising somewhere on the first two streets. Because you are in last position, and so will have tons of information on the turn, and because your equity goes up a lot with a favorable turn card (namely not an overcard or card that makes a gutshot), I'd consider waiting until the turn to put in your raise there.
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Old 03-11-2006, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KJs and KTs played passive?

In hand 1 I'd consider raising the turn and betting all heart/K/J rivers. Gets you more when you suckout, costs you the same if you lose. It's mostly dependent on whether you think this guy is 3betting you (which isn't as bad as it sounds since if he 3bets you can fold UI on the river).
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Old 03-11-2006, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 KJs and KTs played passive?

Hand 1: does anyone like to raise the flop to see where you stand? if you get 3 bet you know he has an A and you can save money on the turn and river by then folding if he bets into you on the turn.

Hand 2: you need to be raising on the first two streets.
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