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Old 09-05-2007, 12:27 PM
spyderracing spyderracing is offline
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Default Re: NL200: AK. Is it profitable to make move here?

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correct.

hard to get value from hands after you hit your hand. the phrase "put you on AK" is around for a reason. you're ussually getting your stack in close to dead or splitting (there are times when villain has complete air or ax, but not enough)

and a 4b makes it so easy to play and is +ev

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This is all that needs to be said.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:51 PM
PartysOver PartysOver is offline
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Default Re: NL200: AK. Is it profitable to make move here?

"If callin in position with AK is the right play depends on villain's 3betting range. If villain will squeeze here with ATs+ AJo+ calling with AK is very profitable because your implied odds are very good if an A flops."

so what about on 322 flops where you miss and villain gets to play perfectly after he cbets?

"Also the whole reverse implied odds doesn't really hold. He will c-bet most A-high flops with most of his range. Free money. Sometimes we get stacked on K high flops, lots of time we pick up his 44 dollar cbet on those same flops. Sometimes he tilts and can't get away from whatever he has without putting in a fair amount of money even with one overcard. Calling is perfectly fine, although its better against players thats a bit more active than this dude preflop. "

... ok so what about on 322 flops where he's not tilting and will only put money in with the same hand or a set after the c-bet (on Axx or Kxx flops)? this is a rio situation.
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Old 09-05-2007, 12:53 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: NL200: AK. Is it profitable to make move here?

I honestly think I'd rather fold than 4bet preflop tbh. I like the call and I just fold flop.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: NL200: AK. Is it profitable to make move here?

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... ok so what about on 322 flops where he's not tilting and will only put money in with the same hand or a set after the c-bet (on Axx or Kxx flops)? this is a rio situation.

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rio? Who only c-bets sets and overpairs in reraised pots? Most people c-bet % is very high when they are OOP and they reraised preflop.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: NL200: AK. Is it profitable to make move here?

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I honestly think I'd rather fold than 4bet preflop tbh. I like the call and I just fold flop.

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Agreed. If we are so worried that his range is tight here, why do we wanna get it in preflop.
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Old 09-05-2007, 01:19 PM
MYNAMEIZGREG MYNAMEIZGREG is offline
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Default Re: NL200: AK. Is it profitable to make move here?

Fold preflop.

Fold >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>> 4bet > call
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