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Old 08-29-2007, 12:32 AM
Kodfish Kodfish is offline
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realjaydubs,

please stop. you are wrong. I cash out all the time and I play for a living. This thread is absurd.

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I too cash out all the time and play for a living. The true lack of logic by realjaydub in this thread is amazing. Riddle me this. How does anyone make a living playing online poker if there is a such thing as a cashout curse?

I'll answer for you. Its not possible to both have a curse and make a living playing poker. If the sites rigged it is so that when you cashed out, you got pounded for say the amount your cashed out for, then it would be impossible to make a living.

I hope you aren't claiming that no one can make a living playing poker online. You can't be that misguided right? And if you can concede that point, then please explain how a cashout curse could exist and yet still allow players to make a living?

And when you can't answer that, please stop posting.

Kodfish

ps. When someone resorts to name calling in a discussion, as realjaydub as done repeatedly, its usually a sign that they have no logical footing in the argument and must resort to name calling.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:32 AM
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ORLY

I do understand how a RNG works, do you always talk down to people?


Please share your deep mathematical understanding and how this works with software to make it completely random.

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Observing the truth is not talking down to someone. If you can't handle the truth, the problem is yours.

You obviously don't know how a RNG works, or you would know that a software RNG can't be completely random.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:37 AM
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You obviously don't know how a RNG works, or you would know that a software RNG can't be completely random.

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Fortunately, in this case, PokerStars (and Party, presumably amongst others) know this and use hardware inputs (including users' mouse/keyboard movements) to generate their RNG seed.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:10 AM
realjaydub realjaydub is offline
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realjaydubs,

please stop. you are wrong. I cash out all the time and I play for a living. This thread is absurd.

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I too cash out all the time and play for a living. The true lack of logic by realjaydub in this thread is amazing. Riddle me this. How does anyone make a living playing online poker if there is a such thing as a cashout curse?

I'll answer for you. Its not possible to both have a curse and make a living playing poker. If the sites rigged it is so that when you cashed out, you got pounded for say the amount your cashed out for, then it would be impossible to make a living.

I hope you aren't claiming that no one can make a living playing poker online. You can't be that misguided right? And if you can concede that point, then please explain how a cashout curse could exist and yet still allow players to make a living?

And when you can't answer that, please stop posting.

Kodfish


ps. When someone resorts to name calling in a discussion, as realjaydub as done repeatedly, its usually a sign that they have no logical footing in the argument and must resort to name calling.

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Of course there a winners, big winners....I never disputed that. There are a ton of players who play for a living, that's fact. Winners will always be a source of income for the poker site. Remember, they are in this to make money, not give it away.

Of course I have a couple personal reasons why this is possible even with a skewed rng abliet not skewed 100% of the time.

a)the true winners have adapted to the skewed rng and have developed a system to know when a beat or bad streak is coming and play less. I too had developed a system in sng's that worked pretty well.

b)you were just lucky enough to get a boom account when you signed up. Face it, even if your leap years ahead of everyone else your edge is still not that significant.

C)I suck bawls, get lucky and go on a heater for 3 months then variance kicks in and takes my monies after cashing out, but not until I cashout. Repeat over 3 years.

d)They have an algorithm based on players who deposit, when they have proven to be a contionous depositer, why wouldn't they rig it against them, they will be a source of income for life.



p.s The mud flings both ways....If I don't have a leg to stand on neither does call the cops boy.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:12 AM
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ORLY

I do understand how a RNG works, do you always talk down to people?


Please share your deep mathematical understanding and how this works with software to make it completely random.

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Observing the truth is not talking down to someone. If you can't handle the truth, the problem is yours.

You obviously don't know how a RNG works, or you would know that a software RNG can't be completely random.

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duh, so why are you attacking me again? You are agreeing with me moron. Yes, I called you a moron.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:13 AM
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realjaydubs,

please stop. you are wrong. I cash out all the time and I play for a living. This thread is absurd.

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Yeah, don't question anything, because that would be absurd, sheep.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:29 AM
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"If people hate these threads so much, than how come there is always a million posts defending pokerstars"

Because dumb people might believe your lies and quit playing,then we all lose money.

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So dumb people who win and don't experience the cashout curse or bad beat street will quit because I have spoken up with my experiences?

Perhaps you're the dumb one?
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:31 AM
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First cash out curse and now "boom" account. No one has landed on the moon either, I guess? Jay, c'mon. You are bringing up every possibility you can think of to justify why you lose money after you cashout except that you aren't a winning player.

It's nothing more complicated than that. Winning players win, cashout, win some more and cashout some more. Some losing players go on heaters, cashout, their variance kicks in and they lose.

Or, there is some psychological reasons for the "cashout curse". The player is comfortable and kind of used to looking at his newly grown account balance. He cashes out 1/3 -1/2 of his online bankroll and its looks tiny to him. He now plays tighter, or differently in some other way, because his account looks smaller. I don't know.

I'm not saying that lots of players don't experience a downswing after a cashout. I'm just saying that it's easily probable that there are logical reasons for it other than the site is out to get the player.

And please don't get me started on "boom" accounts. Another way losing players justify their losses other than their bad play is to speak of doomswitches and other silly things.

Why is it so hard for humans to find weakness in themselves? They ignore their own mistakes as holding back their success and instead choose some voodoo.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:41 AM
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First cash out curse and now "boom" account. No one has landed on the moon either, I guess? Jay, c'mon. You are bringing up every possibility you can think of to justify why you lose money after you cashout except that you aren't a winning player.

It's nothing more complicated than that. Winning players win, cashout, win some more and cashout some more. Some losing players go on heaters, cashout, their variance kicks in and they lose.

Or, there is some psychological reasons for the "cashout curse". The player is comfortable and kind of used to looking at his newly grown account balance. He cashes out 1/3 -1/2 of his online bankroll and its looks tiny to him. He now plays tighter, or differently in some other way, because his account looks smaller. I don't know.

I'm not saying that lots of players don't experience a downswing after a cashout. I'm just saying that it's easily probable that there are logical reasons for it other than the site is out to get the player.

And please don't get me started on "boom" accounts. Another way losing players justify their losses other than their bad play is to speak of doomswitches and other silly things.

Why is it so hard for humans to find weakness in themselves? They ignore their own mistakes as holding back their success and instead choose some voodoo.

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Heheheh

Well I did "level" you with the boom account theory...hahahah.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:42 AM
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Of course I have a couple personal reasons why this is possible even with a skewed rng abliet not skewed 100% of the time.

a)the true winners have adapted to the skewed rng and have developed a system to know when a beat or bad streak is coming and play less. I too had developed a system in sng's that worked pretty well.

b)you were just lucky enough to get a boom account when you signed up. Face it, even if your leap years ahead of everyone else your edge is still not that significant.

C)I suck bawls, get lucky and go on a heater for 3 months then variance kicks in and takes my monies after cashing out, but not until I cashout. Repeat over 3 years.

d)They have an algorithm based on players who deposit, when they have proven to be a contionous depositer, why wouldn't they rig it against them, they will be a source of income for life.

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QFS (quoted for stupidity)
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