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#31
08-24-2007, 10:51 PM
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Re: Will Smith as Neo?!?
Will Smith is black?
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#32
08-24-2007, 10:53 PM
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Re: Will Smith as Neo?!?
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this isn't true. will smith "dumbed down" doesn't sound very interesting at all. what i mean is he said he turned down the movie and he regrets it, but i feel like if he played the role like keanu did, it wouldn't fit his image, and if he played it like the will smith in other movies, it would have taken away from the grandness/mystique of the role. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't that what acting is though? He's supposed to be someone different than from his other movies.
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#33
08-24-2007, 10:55 PM
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Re: Will Smith as Neo?!?
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[ QUOTE ] this isn't true. will smith "dumbed down" doesn't sound very interesting at all. what i mean is he said he turned down the movie and he regrets it, but i feel like if he played the role like keanu did, it wouldn't fit his image, and if he played it like the will smith in other movies, it would have taken away from the grandness/mystique of the role. [/ QUOTE ] Isn't that what acting is though? He's supposed to be someone different than from his other movies. [/ QUOTE ] none of his fans would have been able to see him as the real Hitch if he did The Matrix.
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#34
08-24-2007, 10:56 PM
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Re: Will Smith as Neo?!?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think if they cast Smith they don't go with Fishburne as Morpheus FWIW. [/ QUOTE ] What white actor would you cast as Morpheus (in keeping with the whole racial balance thing)? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not surprised they asked Val Kilmer, because I can totally see him doing that character. [/ QUOTE ] insert do not want pic here, It's hard for me to say who could take the place, but it would have to be someone like vin diesel. [/ QUOTE ] Christopher Walken all the way "Neeeo, [pause] you are the one".
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#36
08-24-2007, 10:58 PM
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[ QUOTE ] I don't understand the half asian thing though, is keanu half asian? [/ QUOTE ] um, yes. surprised you didn't know, but i guess if you didn't, most of america doesn't either. [/ QUOTE ] Reeves is 1/4 Asian at best. His mother is white, his dad was born in Hawaii, and is half white, half Portuguese/Chinese/Hawaiian. So only his paternal grandmother has any non-white blood, and she's a mix anyway. If I were Asian, I wouldn't want to lay claim to him anyway. Hahaha. But seriously -- I think Reeves gets a bum rap. Sure he sucks when he's trying to act with dialogue... and character and words and stuff. But a lot of acting is physical, especially movie acting (he couldn't get away with this crap on a stage), and Reeves' physical capabilities as an action star have been long underrated. A bulk of the trilogy's great success is due to his performance as Neo, and much of that is really his look: how he runs up walls, shoots guns, does kung fu, and walks around in cool shades and a black trenchcoat. Not a lot of actors can pull that off (no matter how much more talented Phillip Seymour Hoffman is, he would be a total toolbag as Neo), and Reeves did a great job running up walls. He's equally adept in "Speed," a similarly lousy script that nevertheless benefits from him hanging off a speeding bus and jumping over subway trains. When you watch him do that crap, you just somehow suspend your disbelief. He gets paid a ton, and the studios know why. I think a lot of audience members don't -- or at least don't recognize it. As for Will Smith, I think he's one of the few huge stars who also can manage that kind of physical acting, but his attitude is all wrong. The Wachowskis, as clever as they are, don't have a very good sense of humor and take their trilogy extremely seriously. Will Smith is too sarcastic to be a serious Neo. Sure he's good in his dramatic roles (I liked him in Ali and The Pursuit of Happyness, etc.) but his smirk is always loaded with a wisecrack waiting to come out. Men In Black was the right vehicle for Smith. Matrix was the right vehicle for Reeves. That's why all of those movies made a crapload of cash.
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#37
08-24-2007, 11:01 PM
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meh. i think reeves was pretty hammy at times in that movie, the role just conceals his deficits pretty well. i think smith was better in several of his big roles. [/ QUOTE ] which is why he turned down the Matrix to do......WILD WILD WEST. wtf?
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#38
08-24-2007, 11:02 PM
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Re: Will Smith as Neo?!?
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[ QUOTE ] I think if they cast Smith they don't go with Fishburne as Morpheus FWIW. [/ QUOTE ] What white actor would you cast as Morpheus (in keeping with the whole racial balance thing)? [/ QUOTE ] My first thought, for some reason, was Ed Harris. But maybe he's too vanilla, not mysterious enough. Then I thought Donald Sutherland, but he's probably too old (although the voice is perfect). Clancy Brown would be a super-great choice IMO (Highlander, Shawshank, etc).
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#40
08-24-2007, 11:15 PM
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Re: Will Smith as Neo?!?
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[ QUOTE ] I don't understand the half asian thing though, is keanu half asian? [/ QUOTE ] um, yes. surprised you didn't know, but i guess if you didn't, most of america doesn't either. [/ QUOTE ] Checks your facts before you start acting all bitter about being asian. He was born to a British mother, his fraternal Grandfather was Irish American, and his fraternal Grandmother was part Asian, Hawaian,and Portugues. So at most he was an eighth Asian. Get a clue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keanu_Reeves. Also, addressing your earlier comment about how a half Asian isn't a typical Christ figure. Even if he was, and he is not, if the American public thinks he is white then it makes no difference. Edit: Wow, I will leave this here, but I somehow missed PJ's earlier post.
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