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Old 07-31-2007, 08:24 PM
Djeorge Djeorge is offline
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wait, i still dont get how stars gets more money if this happens, wouldn't they get the same amount of rake if he wins or loses any given pot or did poker change in the last 12 hours?

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you forgot about implied FGators tilt odds
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:28 PM
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im somewhat surprised mt2r didnt get more of a reaction
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:31 PM
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ps if you change the g and a in fgators its fagtors LOLOMG

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from this thread

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LOL WIN.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:31 PM
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oh god.

i wish i worked there again, if just for one week to deal with fgators.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:34 PM
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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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BTW people used to say this all the time and send me their data at PokerStars while I worked there.

I crushed every single one of them, and I would love to do it to MT2R and FGators. It was the best part of my job.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:39 PM
LionelHutz00 LionelHutz00 is offline
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Default Re: Breaking development: Pokerstars to be sued for cheating

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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BTW people used to say this all the time and send me their data at PokerStars while I worked there.

I crushed every single one of them, and I would love to do it to MT2R and FGators. It was the best part of my job.

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I'd like to see this because IMO MT2R is an excellent poster/ smart guy/ not an idiot and coming from him, the results that he got are pretty shocking. I'd love to see a follow up on those numbers.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Breaking development: Pokerstars to be sued for cheating

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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BTW people used to say this all the time and send me their data at PokerStars while I worked there.

I crushed every single one of them, and I would love to do it to MT2R and FGators. It was the best part of my job.

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lol@you "crushed everyone of them"

By "crushing" them, were you sending the standard e-mail that support sends out a million times a day.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Breaking development: Pokerstars to be sued for cheating

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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BTW people used to say this all the time and send me their data at PokerStars while I worked there.

I crushed every single one of them, and I would love to do it to MT2R and FGators. It was the best part of my job.

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lol@you "crushed everyone of them"

By "crushing" them, were you sending the standard e-mail that support sends out a million times a day.

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Lol this is what I was thinking.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:43 PM
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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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BTW people used to say this all the time and send me their data at PokerStars while I worked there.

I crushed every single one of them, and I would love to do it to MT2R and FGators. It was the best part of my job.

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lol@you "crushed everyone of them"

By "crushing" them, were you sending the standard e-mail that support sends out a million times a day.

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Lol this is what I was thinking.

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Old 07-31-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Breaking development: Pokerstars to be sued for cheating

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

[/ QUOTE ]

BTW people used to say this all the time and send me their data at PokerStars while I worked there.

I crushed every single one of them, and I would love to do it to MT2R and FGators. It was the best part of my job.

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lol@you "crushed everyone of them"

By "crushing" them, were you sending the standard e-mail that support sends out a million times a day.

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LOL
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