$114 Almost flop nuts and get in trouble

[suzzer99]

Man you must be running bad. Reraise turn, reraise river. Pray for action on all streets.

[Chipchucker5]

I like leading on the flop for sure. It's already a sizable pot and the flop is likely to have hit someone (either a Q or a draw). It'd be a lot different if the flop were J33 where I think a check is almost mandatory. As played, I'd def raise the turn, but the river kind of depends. It'd be nice to have reads because against solid players you can just call, but I guess against unknowns you should be raising.

[DuderinoAB]

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why are didn't raise river ?

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1. What???
2. Because its not a 6.50

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haha you wanna say that i play 6.5$? idiot !

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He's saying a raise would be awful at this level. Calm down, sport.

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A raise wouldn't have to be awful here. I'm sure there are plenty of villians in the 114s who a shove would be correct against, but there are also a few who you're beat against a significant amount of the time so shoving would be really bad. The 6.50 comment was simply meant to say that you can't just blindly raise here because you have a really good hand. That doesn't work at that level. Thanks for calling me an idiot though. I'm sure your ePenis is bigger than mine. Congrats.

[DDBeast]

My thoughts:
Betting the flop is fine, but I wanted people to hit there gutshots, or boat up their pocket pair, etc. There's really no risk in checking since although people could suck out with bigger boats, they're not folding the flop anyway. However, Chipchucker, you may be right. I might be losing too much value on a flop with this texture.

Keep in mind KQ/QJ make up a pretty large chunk of a cold calling range. QT- and AQ are less likely. I doubt sb is bluffing into 3 people. I think KQ/QJ are pretty likely here. I just don't see much value in a raise at any point. I would be hoping he cold called with AQ/QT/AT and pretty much nothing else.

[Little John]

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I like leading on the flop for sure. It's already a sizable pot and the flop is likely to have hit someone (either a Q or a draw). It'd be a lot different if the flop were J33 where I think a check is almost mandatory. As played, I'd def raise the turn, but the river kind of depends. It'd be nice to have reads because against solid players you can just call, but I guess against unknowns you should be raising.

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i really like your point about flop lead

[KyleH186]

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My thoughts:
Betting the flop is fine, but I wanted people to hit there gutshots, or boat up their pocket pair, etc. There's really no risk in checking since although people could suck out with bigger boats, they're not folding the flop anyway.

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If this is your reasoning for not betting the flop, then you gotta be ready to commit your stack later on in the hand, unless running Ks, Aces, or another queen comes out. You didn't give a better hand enough of a chance to show itself, that guy could be trying to take down the pot on the river with relative weakness shown from you and the SB, or he could have AQ, Q 10, A 10. If he has KQ or QJ then you load up another one.

(You should probably have bet the flop and definitely should have raised the turn.)

[TwistedEcho]

I think the only street i like is preflop.

[Pudge714]

DDBeast,
I agree with your point on the flop, but you can make a stupid bet like 1/3rd pot and accomplish basically the same thing.
As played I raise turn I mean if his range is KQ+ raising is still really +EV.
I would raise the initial river bet, but as played I guess I call.