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Old 07-25-2007, 01:37 AM
jessyj07 jessyj07 is offline
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

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If there are actually any PRO's to raising to 65 preflop, please tell me what they are.

[/ QUOTE ]control pot size by not seeing a flop. also calling preflop for deception isn't bad either. i think that's better than reraising so much and giving away our hadn,.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

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That just makes him fold nearly everything.

[/ QUOTE ]Does that really matter? Being 200bb deep and against an unknown you're not winning this pot very often postflop and you're not going to be able to put him on a range of hands because he'd call any 2 that you'd reraise with because of the stacks and he has position.

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Wow... You sir are an idiot.

I like a turn check here, and see what happens...
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

you have to be the biggest nit ever if all you want with KK preflop is take down the blinds/open raises.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

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That just makes him fold nearly everything.

[/ QUOTE ]Does that really matter? Being 200bb deep and against an unknown you're not winning this pot very often postflop and you're not going to be able to put him on a range of hands because he'd call any 2 that you'd reraise with because of the stacks and he has position.

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Raising so big that the only hand that calls you is the one that is crushing you is ludicrous.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

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you have to be the biggest idiot ever if all you want with KK preflop is take down the blinds/open raises.

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Old 07-25-2007, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

Against donks a lot of the time Ill c/c the turn here then donk the river.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

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If there are actually any PRO's to raising to 65 preflop, please tell me what they are.

[/ QUOTE ]control pot size by not seeing a flop. also calling preflop for deception isn't bad either. i think that's better than reraising so much and giving away our hadn,.

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No offense meant but maybe you should brush up on your NL play some.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

Also, not sure if this matters or not, but here is where I got most of my stack on this table:

BB was a LAGtard who had lost a medium-sized pot to me last orbit in a blind battle, so I knew there was a high chance he had [censored] here.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $278.35
BB: $156.50
UTG: $187.75
UTG+1: $432.70
MP: $521.25
CO: $245.35
BTN: $275.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 Players)
5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($16) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $11.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $148.50</font>, Hero calls $137.50

Turn: ($313) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($313) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $313.00 ($3 Rake)

BB had T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$156.50)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Fives) and WON (+$153.50)

The reason I post this is the rest of the table might view me as "unbluffable." It's probably not THAT relevant, but it's better than nothing.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

wow way to go with your read. maybe someday you'll be as good as thelaughlinman lol.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL, KK in a sick spot, 200+ BB deep.

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wow way to go with your read. maybe someday you'll be as good as thelaughlinman lol.

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Are you done making useless posts?

[/ QUOTE ]yeah I think so, I am just so impressed with thelaughlinman and calling with middle pair and all. we should all aspire to be as good as he is.
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