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#121
07-13-2007, 11:54 AM
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Re: The Well: ama0330
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] if you call a 3bet with AK, what, if any, flops are you getting jiggy on when you whiff? [/ QUOTE ] Depending on the villain, I'll go to war with TPTK here cause I'm killing most of villains range like mid pps and high broadways. Note that this is not an auto-stackoff, it depends on a lot of things. I wouldnt stack off versus a 9/6 for eg, might even fold AK pre there. [/ QUOTE ] So what about when you whiff? It just seems that calling to hit 6 outs with not much implied odds is a bad idea. [/ QUOTE ] You can't "whiff" with AK, you either hit or you dont. There is no "whiffing" in 3bet pots, you are either felting or not, otherwise fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] ama, thanks for the responses. I might just be being really thick today (not having a good day), but what do you mean you can't whiff with AK?? are you suggesting felting AK unimproved on the flop in 3b pots?? 
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#122
07-13-2007, 12:10 PM
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Re: The Well: ama0330
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So you are quite in the ghetto. I'm a Bromley boy but have family in Clapham and Stretham, which is near you. How much time do you put in playing? How much do you put into 2+2 or other study? Are you on here all the time you're at work? [/ QUOTE ] Bromley north here [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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#124
07-13-2007, 12:30 PM
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Re: The Well: ama0330
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So you are quite in the ghetto. I'm a Bromley boy but have family in Clapham and Stretham, which is near you. How much time do you put in playing? How much do you put into 2+2 or other study? Are you on here all the time you're at work? [/ QUOTE ] At the mo, 80% of my time at work is 2p2, lol... I am actually finishing this job in a week and a half, then ALL my time will be on 2p2 [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I try to play 1k hands a day, and usually get there. I spend a lot of time with my gf which stops me from playing often, but I see this as definitely a good thing.
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#125
07-13-2007, 12:31 PM
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Re: The Well: ama0330
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] if you call a 3bet with AK, what, if any, flops are you getting jiggy on when you whiff? [/ QUOTE ] Depending on the villain, I'll go to war with TPTK here cause I'm killing most of villains range like mid pps and high broadways. Note that this is not an auto-stackoff, it depends on a lot of things. I wouldnt stack off versus a 9/6 for eg, might even fold AK pre there. [/ QUOTE ] So what about when you whiff? It just seems that calling to hit 6 outs with not much implied odds is a bad idea. [/ QUOTE ] You can't "whiff" with AK, you either hit or you dont. There is no "whiffing" in 3bet pots, you are either felting or not, otherwise fold preflop. [/ QUOTE ] ama, thanks for the responses. I might just be being really thick today (not having a good day), but what do you mean you can't whiff with AK?? are you suggesting felting AK unimproved on the flop in 3b pots?? [/ QUOTE ] "whiff" implies a "small hit". If you play AK in a 3bet pot and hit an A or K, you aren't folding. If you dont hit, then you ARE folding. But you can't "whiff".
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#126
07-13-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: The Well: ama0330
k, i thought whiff meant missed. guess i'll have to re-read all those posts about what to do with whiffed overs...
i suppose we flop TPTK 32% of the time and we're getting 33% pot odds usually so I'm making a fuss about nothing.
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#128
07-13-2007, 01:45 PM
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Re: The Well: ama0330
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Ama, I'm sure you know of Grimstarr, but do you endorse the pizza face too? [/ QUOTE ] He may be a moron and a douche but there is no question that he is a very, very good poker player. Somewhere inside there at least. Don't forget that he destroyed MSNL to get where he is now. But yeah, AQo-aments
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#130
07-13-2007, 01:55 PM
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Re: The Well: ama0330
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Quote: Assuming you have no reads on villain, do you always try to get it all-in pf with AK? Are you always 3betting with it? Calling a shove? Shoving as a 4bet? I very rarely get it in PF with AK because it performs so poorly against most villain's calling range. You are basically behind 90% of the hands which are going to call your push. I may call a shove with it if I have been hammering someone during a session, or if they are a moran. I will always 3bet AK for value or to isolate, but may just call a 3bet preflop instead of 4betting. [/ QUOTE ] Tks for doing this ama - lots of useful info -tilt linky, above, and about doing pstove -personally I pstove all big hands vs their exact hand and various ranges now. Bit late to the Well but I found the above useful -recently I've been doing alot flipping with 1/2 stacks and tbh I suck at push/fold AI skillz so have dropped some of it esp as why flip with a rtard villan when I can find better spots to take his money - so the above post helps. I always enjoy your slight different take on things sometimes which gets me thinking - e.g. the 3bet pot OOP stuff I'll have to consider. O.k. now some questions if it isn't too late [and my interwebs doesn't crash] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Do you play Offsuit Connectors at all -BTN/SB? I think I have a leak in HU [me]SB vs BB play? Especially HU vs a donk with low FCBET% and high vpvip what's your opening raise [and complete if u do] ranges and general flop plan with tpck/2nd pair OOP? Should I just drop x8- , junk and stick to good hands like a BTN range and just vbet and drop the crappy Ax/OSCs? [jay and others in SSNL cheez have vpip of 25% discussed it a little yesterday and even PG says OOP even vs worst players still going to lose money so reducing the loss is the aim.] P.S. I'm in Bristol we should have a UK meet up sometime @ gutshot or something if there's enough interest.
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