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Old 07-11-2007, 04:53 AM
markbris markbris is offline
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Default Flopped a really strong draw, how to play?

$1.10 sat to the sundray 100K, no reads particularly. Lead out, check-call, checkraise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t6412)
CO (t990)
Button (t6985)
SB (t5900)
Hero (t2940)
UTG (t1150)
UTG+1 (t1995)
MP1 (t6280)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t300, MP2 calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls t300, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t150.

Flop: (t1575) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero ?
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:16 AM
JammyDodga JammyDodga is offline
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Default Re: Flopped a really strong draw, how to play?

This is not a flop to try to semi bluff, you are up against 5 players and theres a couple of high cards on the board so the chance of getting them all to fold is zero.

This i something I need to keep reminding myself - if they aren't going to fold, betting your draws is just putting money in th epot when you are behind.

I check and evaluate after it come back round to me, but I'm looking for around 4:1 odds to be calling, I think your pair of tens is pretty worthless here, even another ace might screw you as QJ is a very reall possibilty for any one of the other 4 players in the pot. Its very important to try and resist the temptation to bet out if you miss the flush.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:49 AM
Camdaman19 Camdaman19 is offline
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Default Re: Flopped a really strong draw, how to play?

First off, that's not that strong of a draw, just a simple flush draw. I would say check this and call if your getting the right odds.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a really strong draw, how to play?

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First off, that's not that strong of a draw, just a simple flush draw. I would say check this and call if your getting the right odds.

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Middle pair, overcard, nut flush and runner/runner broadway draws seems pretty strong to me. Defintely strong enough to get it in on the flop against more or less any action and that should be our aim. The line depends on villains and how we think they'll play. Bet/three-bet shove is fine. Check-raise is OK.

I'd generally assume that at least one person will bet the flop and that somebody else will call so I'd probably check-shove.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a really strong draw, how to play?

Stacks seem pretty good for a check-push here. If UTG shoves and all fold, you are calling with those odds. If UTG shoves and gets a caller you are getting the right odds to call as well. If he checks and MP1 or MP2 bet 1000 or so you have about a pot sized shove.
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a really strong draw, how to play?

I agree with BlueEcho. Find a way to get all of your chips in on the Flop. It's very likely that one player will bet out. CRAI!
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Old 07-11-2007, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a really strong draw, how to play?

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First off, that's not that strong of a draw, just a simple flush draw. I would say check this and call if your getting the right odds.

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You also have middle pair. You are a small favorite against almost any one pair hand. If you bet you are certainly pot committed (well, maybe you can lay down if like 2 people shove, but even then you have 8 clean outs to the nuts if one of them has a set). I'd check. If it gets checked aroud, sweet. If someone bets, C-R all-in.
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Old 07-11-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a really strong draw, how to play?

Lead like 900, and obviously get the rest of your chips in
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