Observed a player steal from another while coloring down. My action?

[bernie]

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Are all of you guys losers without backbones? Whats with all this "i would of jokingly said", "in a non accusing voice", etc, and worst of all, just remain silent altogether.

The guy str8 up stole $25, from a rookie no less. And all you guys are gonna do is just be playful with the guy? Or worst of all, not say anything at all?

Please explain to me cause i am having a hard time understanding this. Is stealing at the poker table any different then stealing from any other facet of life?

My post may sound harsh but all you guys seriously need to grow a set of balls. What you should do in this situation(what i would do), is to tell seat 5 to immediatly return the extra chip that doesnt belong to him in a stern voice. Non of this joking, non accusing, nonsense. Why would you even use a "non accusing voice" when that is exactly what he did(stole)? I'd prolly go a step further and made sure that the whole table knew that he tried to steal a chip from the novice.

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I agree. Especially if this is a known A-hole. From the OP, it does seem as if he knew exactly what he was doing. Screw him. I don't see how this would piss off anyone but the POS that's getting caught tyring to pull a fast one.

b

[baggins]

yeah. who cares if the guy becomes an 'enemy'? if he's being dishonest, it destroys the integrity of the game. let this guy get away with it now, and who knows what he'll try next?

there's nothing wrong with calling another player out if they're obviously doing something they shouldn't be doing.

[TxRedMan]

i immediately diffuse these situations by saying very casually but affirmatively, non accusatory "one too many"

[DrPublo]

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i immediately diffuse these situations by saying very casually but affirmatively, non accusatory "one too many"

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This, or something akin to what Dynasty suggested, was what I should have done and what I will do in the future.

The Doc

[DrPublo]

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Are all of you guys losers without backbones? Whats with all this "i would of jokingly said", "in a non accusing voice", etc, and worst of all, just remain silent altogether.

The guy str8 up stole $25, from a rookie no less. And all you guys are gonna do is just be playful with the guy? Or worst of all, not say anything at all?

Please explain to me cause i am having a hard time understanding this. Is stealing at the poker table any different then stealing from any other facet of life?

My post may sound harsh but all you guys seriously need to grow a set of balls. What you should do in this situation(what i would do), is to tell seat 5 to immediatly return the extra chip that doesnt belong to him in a stern voice. Non of this joking, non accusing, nonsense. Why would you even use a "non accusing voice" when that is exactly what he did(stole)? I'd prolly go a step further and made sure that the whole table knew that he tried to steal a chip from the novice.

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I don't think it has very much to do with having a backbone at all. If there were a rule posted on the wall saying that all players are responsible for verifying the integrity of all chip transactions they witness, then I would have said something. The point is that obviously what this guy did was wrong, and I was wondering if its my place to say anything.

Typically when two players are conducting a transaction between themselves I try to stay out of it entirely because very often one of the two will be trying to scam the other (think: "Hey, I'll lay you even money that a jack, seven or deuce shows up on the flop", etc). Then again, when a dealer is having difficulty figuring out a sidepot I try to respectfully chime in with the right amounts for everything--but that's designed to speed the game along. I wasn't sure if this fell under that category or not.

The Doc

[Diana Ross Fan]

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I've been playing there a lot more lately and don't want to be in the position of making enemies,

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What's with this 'enemy' crap? Do you really care if this type of person becomes an enemy?

I can say with all the time I've spent in a cardroom, I never gave 2 sh*ts less if I made an enemy or not. Especially over something like this. Even more-so with an A-Hole that knowingly shorts another player who's distracted. Get some friggin' balls.

b

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There is no advantage to making an enemy in the poker world but there are a thousand ways that could hurt you.

[DrPublo]

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yeah. who cares if the guy becomes an 'enemy'?

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With regard to the enemy business, I have mixed feelings. Like bernie said, I certainly don't give a damn if the player in question likes me or dislikes me. He's a prick and I'm pretty sure he doesn't really like anybody at the table anyway. At the same time, he's involved in probably 60% of hands and I'd rather not have him making revenge plays at me when we're in a pot together.

Then there's the added angle of him being there constantly and presumably having extra sway with the dealers and floorpeople. I could envision a situation where this could also come back to hurt me if the player in question was really determined to exact some sort of revenge.

The Doc

[DrPublo]

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Hey Doc,

Its the med student who went on a heater yesterday morning. It was a pleasure playing with you the past couple of days. Anyway, I like dynasty's approach. You protect the integrity of the game while minimizing the risk of making an enemy.

You'll have to give me a hint as to which regular this is.

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Sorry, don't remember you in particular. You might have me confused with the thin older guy that goes by "Doc" in that game. Were you on table 12? I arrived around 8:30 sat night and left by 3:00am.

The Doc

[rograndom]

And taking into account all the ethical reasons, you would rather have the newbie have the $25 instead of the regular. Much better chance of that "extra" $25 coming to you from the newb instead of the regular.

[davidlong14]

Some punk snatches your grandma's purse with her last $25 for the month from her social securty check, you'd ...