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Old 03-03-2006, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

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Nam looks almost exactly like Tuan.


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DAM, multi-accounting, even in a live event.
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:25 PM
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check behind.
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Old 03-03-2006, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

Am I the only one who likes a push here?

I sense weakness in his play, he might try a post-oak bluff and try to push you out of the pot, especially if the board pairs.

Now I have an interesting question:
What do you think HE thinks you have?

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Old 03-03-2006, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

The problem with the overbet push is that it looks like the EXACT hand you are playing. Your opponent can now make the proper play based upon his read on your flush draw, he can make the proper play most of the time. He knows only a very deceptive (and sometimes foolish) player would push the flush at this point, so you are only going to be called by hands that are ahead of your draw (i.e. 2 pair, set). You certainly may be able to get an A to lay down, but not if they have a decent heart.
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Old 03-03-2006, 02:33 PM
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He knows only a very deceptive (and sometimes foolish) player would push the flush at this point

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Ah, that's why. Although I would classify myself as more foolish than deceptive. Thank you for the lesson! I think I'll re-evaluate my turn pushes for a little while.

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Old 03-03-2006, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

Your stack size makes it perfect for him to check raise you all in here. I like a check behind.
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Old 03-03-2006, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

What kind of a mess have I gotten myself into? I've been playing my best game, getting lucky to get this deep, staring at 100K chips in the pot that I desperately need, but I have zip.pip. The flop bet didn't work, was a screw up as I thought about it, because I told myself when I called the preflop raise that if I didn't hit the flop hard, I shouldn't put any more money in the pot. But then after his flop check, I thought maybe I could take it right there.

So what now?

What would he have smooth called my preflop raise with? Well, it could be a wide range still. A monster like a set, two pair he probably would have check raised me with the flush draw out there, he could be on a flush draw as well but my bet didn't give him the odds to call unless he was paired as well, could have a high pocket pair, could have paired the Ace on the board with a high kicker.

Did the turn card help him? Unlikely. Did he think it helped me? No way. What does he think I have at this point? Why is he checking now?

Given all that, I don't think a push which would be just a pot sized bet would work, no way I'm putting more money into this debacle. So I check and pray.

Poker gods, please deliver me from this mess by giving me a card that helps my hand.

The poker gods heeded my prayer and delivered the Kc.

Nam leads out 30K. Pot has 130K, I have 95k left.

Cruel poker gods.

My move?
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Old 03-03-2006, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

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Nam leads out 30K. Pot has 130K, I have 95k left.

Cruel poker gods.

My move?

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Call and show him you rivered his 99-JJ, or pay off his little A.


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Old 03-03-2006, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: Interesting hand against Nam Lee in Shooting Stars

I think you need to call here. Way to small a bet to consider folding. Especially after you were weak on the turn.
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Old 03-03-2006, 05:48 PM
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call
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