If morons didn't think online poker was rigged...

ZBTHorton · #1 03-02-2006, 05:03 AM

How many more players would be online? Seriously?

Everytime I play at a casino, or at a live card room, anytime online poker is mentioned...everyone talks about how it is not legitimate because of some 2 outer or some such non-sense. They played once, and stopped.

They are naturally all bad players, and obviously not very good at life in general.

Do you think if Party/Stars(please) came out with a campaign, showing more in detail how legitimate their shuffling/dealing was that more donkeys would play online? I'm beginning to think so.

guitarizt · #2 03-02-2006, 05:05 AM

More donkeys? Is that possible?

Sciolist · #3 03-02-2006, 05:10 AM

I was vaguely thinking that Party floating would cut some of this stuff out, but I guess these people think that the stockmarket is corrupt to the core too.

I wonder if, when we review a chat complaint (at PS) and come across someone saying "typical riverstars", it'd be a good plan to pre-emptively send them a bad beat response? "We aren't rigged because xyz, do you want your entire RM hand history as proof?"

ZBTHorton · #4 03-02-2006, 05:13 AM

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I was vaguely thinking that Party floating would cut some of this stuff out, but I guess these people think that the stockmarket is corrupt to the core too.

I wonder if, when we review a chat complaint (at PS) and come across someone saying "typical riverstars", it'd be a good plan to pre-emptively send them a bad beat response? "We aren't rigged because xyz, do you want your entire RM hand history as proof?"

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Haha. That might be kinda creepy thinking that support was "looking over your shoulder" even though you obviously weren't.

I'm not sure exactly how this could be done, I just know I wish I could play 60 hands per hour against those guys rather than 25... :-\

Grey · #5 03-02-2006, 05:22 AM

I may be wrong about this and I'm too tired to check, but I believe paradisepoker has some seal of approval for independent third party shuffle checking or something prominently displayed on their main lobby. I don't think Stars or Party have it as well displayed and for that I say boo to you Party and Stars.

Qbit · #6 03-02-2006, 07:07 AM

It is not only the two random cards that need to be checked but the flop turns and rivers. If someone says this guy has k7 and another guy has ak and they pull cards like k72 out on the flop turn or river. Then random checking the first two cards mean absolutly nothing. This is what they checked not the whole process.

raze · #7 03-02-2006, 02:00 PM

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More donkeys? Is that possible?

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Just imagine online games being as soft as B&M games. $100/hr multi-tabling 3/6 !!

OldLearner · #8 03-02-2006, 02:14 PM

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Do you think if Party/Stars(please) came out with a campaign, showing more in detail how legitimate their shuffling/dealing was that more donkeys would play online? I'm beginning to think so.

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No. They are donkeys for a reason.

Logic, common sense, are not tools they are familiar with.

The reason they lose and refuse to play online is because it is rigged. You cannot convince them otherwise.

UATrewqaz · #9 03-02-2006, 02:25 PM

The big reason donkeys think online is rigged is like the guy said, they lose.

But the thing with online play is your loss is in your face and undeniable.

You know you depsosited $100 on Party Poker, and 3 days later your account balance is .87 and it's painfully clear you lost $100.

Contrast this with a B&M cardroom.

Most donkeys buy in for some random amount (in cash) and cash out for some random amount (receive cash).

They might hit the craps table on their way out and then grab a burger on the way home, etc.

When he gets home and finds $20 left in his wallet it's very easy for his brain to say, "Well I broke about even playing poker, maybe lost a little at craps, bought that burger"

This is why all losing players are "about even", the sloppy nature of cash and how it's easy to lose track of where you spent what allows this fantasy.

Online it does not exist, since you have to jump through hoops to get the money to the site and it's clear once you lose it all.

crunchy1 · #10 03-02-2006, 02:25 PM

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It is not only the two random cards that need to be checked but the flop turns and rivers. If someone says this guy has k7 and another guy has ak and they pull cards like k72 out on the flop turn or river. Then random checking the first two cards mean absolutly nothing. This is what they checked not the whole process.

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So basically what you're saying is that you're a moron?