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C4LL4W4Y · #**3031** 06-20-2007, 02:06 PM

it's FR and the people are usually playing super loose...so i'm super tight except for the cutoff/button, but i do love to take cheap flops (sometimes even OOP) because there are so many horrendous people that will pay off your deceptive monsters.

PJo336 · #**3032** 06-20-2007, 02:08 PM

yeh, i play a home game with 5-7 people, havent hit [censored] in a bout a year there, hit stuff all the time online, i hate live

ssdex · #**3033** 06-20-2007, 02:09 PM

just overbet the crap out of everything pre flop to make your decisions easier on later streets........ classic example of my 1/2/5 game.... utg+1 limps 5 mp limps 5 cutoff limps 5 button limps 5.... i look at ak or aq in the small blind.... make it 40 to go.... everyone folds.... same scenario except for i am the button..... i look at js10s.... raise to 35..... everyone folds..... and then finally someone calls.... but hopefully you have a good hand when they do.... then they cant fold and you stack them

kolotoure · #**3034** 06-20-2007, 02:09 PM

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ya b/c I fold PF

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do you fold this one pre flop too?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($66.75)
BB ($29.50)
UTG ($30.35)
MP ($63.75)
Hero ($113.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $9.5, Hero calls $9.50.

Turn: ($31.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $25.5, Hero raises to $98, SB calls $25.75 (All-In).

River: ($180.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $180.75

Results in white below: 
SB has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and nines).
Hero has Qc Kc (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $180.75. 

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yep i do

jonyy6788 · #**3035** 06-20-2007, 02:13 PM

maybe if we're both sitting $75+ deep I call, but this is just a big ol' trip to RIO town

normal 3-bet range of PS NL50'er is QQ-AA, AK....those nits always cold call JJ OOP and then I pay off a river bet w/ my AT on board Txxxx

ssdex · #**3036** 06-20-2007, 02:14 PM

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ya b/c I fold PF

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do you fold this one pre flop too?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($66.75)
BB ($29.50)
UTG ($30.35)
MP ($63.75)
Hero ($113.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $9.5, Hero calls $9.50.

Turn: ($31.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $25.5, Hero raises to $98, SB calls $25.75 (All-In).

River: ($180.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $180.75

Results in white below: 
SB has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and nines).
Hero has Qc Kc (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $180.75. 

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yep i do

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work on your post flop play..... pokerhud helps with hand ranges a ton.... for 130bb calling a very small 3bet with position and a very narrow hand range of your villain is like a must..... if the Q or K flops bare with no flush draw and you don't have the dicipline to fold then maybe you should fold this pre flop, but I will never stack off with this hand and will stack my villain way more often then not........ I think this is a pretty +ev call at nl50.... if the raise it to 6.5 or 7 and villain only has 100bb then probably not..... lots of factors, but you have to call here, especially if you raise as many hands as I do.

tehDiceman · #**3037** 06-20-2007, 02:15 PM

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ya b/c I fold PF

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do you fold this one pre flop too?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($66.75)
BB ($29.50)
UTG ($30.35)
MP ($63.75)
Hero ($113.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $9.5, Hero calls $9.50.

Turn: ($31.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $25.5, Hero raises to $98, SB calls $25.75 (All-In).

River: ($180.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $180.75

Results in white below: 
SB has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and nines).
Hero has Qc Kc (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $180.75. 

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me thinks that 23s to a raise is different than KQs to a 3bet.

jonyy6788 · #**3038** 06-20-2007, 02:17 PM

I R TAG, so ppl don't play back at me at all....

also, pot control is great IP, but I still don't think u can overcome the times when the flop comes KQx and he has KK/QQ and AK/AA that suck out

kolotoure · #**3039** 06-20-2007, 02:26 PM

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ya b/c I fold PF

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do you fold this one pre flop too?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($66.75)
BB ($29.50)
UTG ($30.35)
MP ($63.75)
Hero ($113.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($12.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $9.5, Hero calls $9.50.

Turn: ($31.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $25.5, Hero raises to $98, SB calls $25.75 (All-In).

River: ($180.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $180.75

Results in white below: 
SB has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and nines).
Hero has Qc Kc (straight, king high).
Outcome: Hero wins $180.75. 

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yep i do

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work on your post flop play..... pokerhud helps with hand ranges a ton.... for 130bb calling a very small 3bet with position and a very narrow hand range of your villain is like a must..... if the Q or K flops bare with no flush draw and you don't have the dicipline to fold then maybe you should fold this pre flop, but I will never stack off with this hand and will stack my villain way more often then not........ I think this is a pretty +ev call at nl50.... if the raise it to 6.5 or 7 and villain only has 100bb then probably not..... lots of factors, but you have to call here, especially if you raise as many hands as I do.

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I'm not sure if you're a gimmick or not. Are you going to c/f everytime you don't flop 2pr or better?

jonyy6788 · #**3040** 06-20-2007, 02:42 PM

I think he meant he's not calling 2 streets (or at least I hope)

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