hand reading exercise

[ProfessorBen]

AxKd.
KdQd is the backup.

[Dan87]

results plz

[jstill]

AK no diamond definitively, he would cap the flop with TPTK and the nut fd 3 ways probably and wouldnt raise knocking out utg on the turn with either that or red KK QQ probably; itd be pretty stupid if he did since MP has atleast TP and utg would never fold any hand that could outdraw him/ currently has him beat (assuming Bob holds AsKd AQd or KdK QdQ)

Also bob mite fold those underpairs on the river to the donk.

I dont know what the hell MP has tho, AA perhaps that got scared on the turn that u mite 4 bet KQdd preflop? im guessing u would not, correct? maybe he has a wacky 22 or 44 that capped preflop and slowed down on the turn? probably not so im guessing its most likely he also has AK, not sure if he does with or without a diamond tho. Either way the donk is stupid with AK on the river but i ll assume hes stupid and guess u guys chopped it up.

[shane88888]

Liberal cold 4b range against a monkey and a potential isolator:
AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT?, 99?
AKs, AK, AQs, AQ?, AJs?, KQs?, QJs?, JTs?

A made flush doesn't make sense. K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is a possible hand, but very unlikely preflop. Anything worse isn't a cold-4betting hand. Even if it is a flopped flush, there's no reason to slow down on the flop when UTG will be seeing the turn at any cost.

QQ-88, diamond or not, are out.

KK with no diamond doesn't raise the turn and then probably doesn't call a river donk.

KK with [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] probably shouldn't raise the turn and risk blowing the monkey out of the hand. Then again, maybe OP thought the monkey would call two big bets cold with any decent diamond. But if this was the play, then why not go nutty on the flop?

Since there was a flop call of the 3b, the turn raise of a brick smells like protection.

What can we possibly call this river with?

AK/AQ no [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

[Frond]

I just chose QQ or AQ cause I dare to be different [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img].

[MitchL]

[ QUOTE ]
this hand is live 6/12
utg is an asian old guy who is completely out of his mind.
mp is a young kid who apparently knows who i am.

utg raises, mp 3 bets, i 4bet, utg calls, mp caps at 5, we call.

flop 3 ways: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg coldcalls, mp 3towns, i call, utg calls.

turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
utg checks, mp bets, i raise, utg folds, mp calls.

river: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
mp bets, i call.

well, what do i have?

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KQ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Though you might pop AxK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on turn here I think the river action gives it away. He is repping AK or AA on river mostly AA and that takes all but 1 Ace so KQ [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is just simply the most likely hand w/ AxK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] a distant 2nd.

[James.]

an ace and another paint card without a diamond.

[JJH3984]

PB never has a flush here for two reasons.


1. This is like the worst flop/turn line to take with a made flush. Why would you want to face the calling station with 2 BB cold when you can easily get him to call a flop cap, probably drawing dead? The same goes for AxKd. PB simply has too much equity with two cards to come not to cap thee flop.

2. Given the action, I think a river raise is in order with a flush.

[MitchL]

[ QUOTE ]
PB never has a flush here for two reasons.


1. This is like the worst flop/turn line to take with a made flush. Why would you want to face the calling station with 2 BB cold when you can easily get him to call a flop cap, probably drawing dead? The same goes for AxKd. PB simply has too much equity with two cards to come not to cap thee flop.

2. Given the action, I think a river raise is in order with a flush.

[/ QUOTE ]

Raising river is spewage. Our line looks like a flush to a live 6/12 player. These guys are extremely passive as a general rule and if this guy is out of the typical CB mold he will be scared shitless of Pbobs turn raise. Also as for the turn raise I dont see whats wrong w/ facing a maniac retard with 2 bets cold on this turn. 1st he may not fold a diamond 2nd he might have some ridic 2 pair.

I might agree w/ a raise fold line, but that is very tough considering the size of this pot and meta-factors.

[TheCount212]

LOL exactly right