Official JUNE uNL **'`MICROBREW THREAD`'** LC/NC this way...

[Pokey]

<font color="blue">In the spirit of this hand, I present another hand for your amusement.</font>

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.40/$0.80 Blinds - 3 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $219.95
BB: $211.40
<font color="black">Pokey (BTN): $168.70</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Pokey is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Pokey raises to $2.80</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $9.20</font>, BB folds, Pokey calls $6.40

<font color="blue">Three-way action and SB has been getting WAY out of line. I give him some rope in the hopes that he'll hang himself postflop.</font>

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($19.20) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">Pokey raises to $40.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $92.00</font>, <font color="red">Pokey raises all-in to $159.50</font>, SB calls $67.50

<font color="blue">I miss the flop, but he probably did too, and I'm still confident that I'm ahead of his range. I reraise big...and he comes back at me. Big. Ugh. With $150 in the pot already I feel that any folding equity a push could muster would be solid gold, and I also feel that my six outs are likely clean, meaning that I'm about 3-to-1 to win if I hit while the pot is offering me 1.4-to-1. He has to fold quite a bit for this to be a good play, and he won't. So why bother pushing?</font>

SB shows A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Pokey shows Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

<font color="blue">Because sometimes he calls with a worse hand. For those of you interested in learning about an advanced topic, read Nate tha' Great's post about value bluffing.</font>

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($338.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="blue">Insult....</font>

<font color="black">River:</font> ($338.20) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="blue">...to injury.</font>

Pot Size: $338.20 ($1 Rake)

SB had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Threes) and LOST (-$168.70)
Pokey had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Threes full of Queens) and WON (+$168.50)

<font color="blue">IMPORTANT NOTE: before you go trying to pull this move all the time, realize that (a) villain was quite a maniac and (b) the table was three-handed, where hand values change fairly dramatically.</font>

[Fiksdal]

Pokey that really looks like spew lol

[Pokey]

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Pokey that really looks like spew lol

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Please...the word "spew" is so perjorative. I prefer "spontaneously emotional play." [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[HBomb]

My best online buddy who is my partner in running our own forums together played almost 18k hands this weekend and I played about 3k because I was in a wedding for one of my best friends.

Just about all of his were at $50NL and here's one major one that almost broke my record for biggest $50 NL pot. Sorry for not being able to convert it, but this is all I got: http://www.pokerhand.org/?1159607

What is this other guy betting so much with on the river and folding to a $40 raise with so much invested?

[kolotoure]

Dbitel theorem/he had air

[Pokey]

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What is this other guy betting so much with on the river and folding to a $40 raise with so much invested?


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[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or JT or TT or JJ or QQ.

[munkey]

Good to se you back around pokey - that's sick I probably would have chickened out after getting 3bet to 90 and only misclick shoved [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

But I guess you had a read.

[Shizzle12345]

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Pokey that really looks like spew lol

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Please...the word "spew" is so perjorative. I prefer "spontaneously emotional play." [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I made the same play yesterday against Ace high with my pair of 7's on 889 flop [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. But he ofcourse rivered an ace. I still thought it was a nice play, I rarely do it tho.

BTW pokey, u seem like a pretty good player, U also hang around here for quite a while, so why do you still play the micro's? And not 2/4 or something.

[bozzer]

Pokey, I don't have your read on the opponent obviously, but I can't see that this bet is +EV as a value bet even against this opponent. this is just a random calling range I chose based on that he called you with A8:


Board: 3d 9c 3h


equity
Hand 0: 47.525% { AQs, AQo }
Hand 1: 52.475% { 55+, A8s+, KJs+, A8o+, KJo+ }

according to Nate a value bluff has to succeed as a value bet against some opponents - I can't see you getting called with a much looser range than this.

[Pokey]

Shizzle12345 said:
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so why do you still play the micro's? And not 2/4 or something.


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I was playing 1/2 before I went on hiatus for about four months; now, I'm easing myself back into the game to try and remember how to play while the stakes are still small.

The past couple days I've been playing 0.4/0.8 deepstacked and 0.5/1, so those both qualify as SSNL; I just like this forum better, so I hang around. Hope you guys don't mind. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

bozzer said:
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according to Nate a value bluff has to succeed as a value bet against some opponents - I can't see you getting called with a much looser range than this.


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Actually, Nate said that a value bluff can succeed if it works as either a value bet or a bluff, under the right circumstances. However, I also think that the paired board and my own hyperaggression make the "bluffcatcher" hands significantly weaker than what you might be used to. In extremely short-handed scenarios where all players have adjusted to the extreme short-handedness, I've seen people call down (correctly) with jack-high. Mind you, I haven't seen it much with stacks 200 BBs deep, but a push here is usually "monster or air." Villain obviously assumed that I had a monster less than 4/5ths of the time and figured that A-high beats my air. I'd say that if villain decided he was going to catch me bluffing a possible calling range might be "any pocket pair, any 3, any nine, any queen, any king, any ace." If he felt that I had the goods, his calling range would be reduced to "99, any 3." Value bluff.

Or spew. Whichever. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Heck, I can't decide if this play was smart or retarded; I'm just glad it worked.