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Old 05-29-2007, 11:50 PM
Assani Fisher Assani Fisher is offline
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Shaq
Hakeem
Duncan
KG


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Wilt???? Kareem???

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Go re-read the sentence before the part of my post that you quoted.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:53 PM
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Kobe during the Lakers(and Spurs) championship seasons was better player than STockton ever was.

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oh, well that settles it then.
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Best Big Men to Ever Play the Game

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Kobe during the Lakers(and Spurs) championship seasons was better player than STockton ever was.

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oh, well that settles it then.

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So you think Stockton in his prime is better than Kobe in his prime?
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Old 05-29-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Best Big Men to Ever Play the Game

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Shaq
Hakeem
Duncan
KG


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Wilt???? Kareem???

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Go re-read the sentence before the part of my post that you quoted.

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Oh, sorry read that wrong, but Kareem was in the league when Hakeem was a rookie.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:10 AM
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Default Re: Best Big Men to Ever Play the Game

I just read this thread.
My favorite bit is probably Bill Russell never once in his career blocking a shot out of bounds in his career.

Assani,
Sabonis may very well have been incredible, but it requires pretty big reaches and speculation/romanticization to put him anywhere close to where you ranked him. When you compared the Suns to the Spurs earlier in the thread, you need to include Duncan in the analysis or eliminate the Suns best player. Otherwise all you are proving is that the Suns> Duncanless Spurs.

I think KG, Duncan is very close, per 40 stats are pretty poor because it works there isn't a linear relationship between minutes played and points scored. The fact that KG is durable is one of the best arguments you can make for him. Ultimately I think Duncan is better because he is a better defender.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:19 AM
Assani Fisher Assani Fisher is offline
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Default Re: Best Big Men to Ever Play the Game

[ QUOTE ]
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Shaq
Hakeem
Duncan
KG


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Wilt???? Kareem???

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Go re-read the sentence before the part of my post that you quoted.

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Oh, sorry read that wrong, but Kareem was in the league when Hakeem was a rookie.

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Yes, but he wasn't one of the 4 best big men ever if you just count that end of his career.
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Old 05-30-2007, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Best Big Men to Ever Play the Game

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Kobe during the Lakers(and Spurs) championship seasons was better player than STockton ever was.

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oh, well that settles it then.

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So you think Stockton in his prime is better than Kobe in his prime?

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so you think Kobe was in his prime at age 22?
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:05 AM
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Assani, how do you feel about PER?
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:18 AM
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Assani, how do you feel about PER?

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he thinks it, along with championships won and quality of supporting cast are the most important things in rating how great a player is. Unless we're talking about Nash (low PER, no rings, great supporting cast) - then none of those things matter.
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Old 05-30-2007, 02:38 AM
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an 18 year career is unreal

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