33$ QQ vs early AI

Toretto · #1 05-14-2007, 02:35 PM

Hi, just wanted to know if this play is standard or if the fold is no good
no read on villain

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t20/t40
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2000
UTG+1: t2000
UTG+2: t2000
MP1: t1960
MP2: t2160
MP3: t1920
Toretto: t2000
Button: t1940
SB: t2060
BB: t1960

Pre-flop: (10 players) Toretto is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to t120, 3 folds, MP2 calls t120 (pot was t180), MP3 folds, Toretto raises to t400, 3 folds, UTG raises all-in t1880, MP2 folds, Toretto folds.
Uncalled bets: t1880 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: t700

toretto

starchyy · #2 05-14-2007, 02:59 PM

Fold looks ok.

RexWoo · #3 05-14-2007, 03:02 PM

Well, reraising with the intention of folding is not part of my play. Should it be ?

I either just call the t120 preflop (only if I know UTG as a solid player) or reraise / call the push (everyone else) without a read. This might be AA / KK but also JJ/TT/AK/AQ sometime worse.

DeuceSeven · #4 05-14-2007, 03:07 PM

Against an unknown I get it in with QQ. Against a good player I might just call the original raise.

AMT · #5 05-14-2007, 03:11 PM

typically against an unknown id get it in and make a note with QQ. reraising and folding is terrible.

sk5111 · #6 05-14-2007, 04:49 PM

If you weren't trying to get him to shove, why the reraise?

That is, what was the original range you put him on? 99+ AJ+?

Toretto · #7 05-14-2007, 06:05 PM

well, I didn't had any poker tracker stats on him, so really couldnt get his range really good..
I reraises to see where I stand, and with the push I think I will be most of the time behind and not in front or flipping against AK, I don't think he is pushing JJ or TT, so AK AQ are the only hands I'm in front

I think I have some problem with those "medium hands" in early stages, because I don't know if it is that good to get your stack in here by calling. Or should I consider QQ as monster here too as AA and KK? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If I raise and get reraised I like to push with QQ but I don't like calling here.
Is this too tight and pessimistic?

Toretto

starchyy · #8 05-14-2007, 07:15 PM

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well, I didn't had any poker tracker stats on him, so really couldnt get his range really good..
I reraises to see where I stand, and with the push I think I will be most of the time behind and not in front or flipping against AK, I don't think he is pushing JJ or TT, so AK AQ are the only hands I'm in front

I think I have some problem with those "medium hands" in early stages, because I don't know if it is that good to get your stack in here by calling. Or should I consider QQ as monster here too as AA and KK? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If I raise and get reraised I like to push with QQ but I don't like calling here.
Is this too tight and pessimistic?

Toretto

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Thats how I see it too, can anyone clear this up?