ZeeJustin the next to get caught multi accounting Party MTTs

[El Diablo]

The Time,

"an account"

LOL.

[El Diablo]

AlphaWice,

GOOD ONE, DUDE!

[KaneKungFu123]

AlphaWise,

You think jaywalking is the same as stealing personal property?

Listen for the pop.

[MaxPower]

I don't think that intent matters. Just putting yourself into the situation where you have to opportunity to cheat is cheating in my opinion.

The fact that so many professional players have convinced themselves that this practice is OK is scary.

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Let's get real for a second - you can't trust a word contained in self-confessed cheaters apologies/whining self-justifications - much like athletes who use drugs they will break every rule to reach their goal - here they are imterested in making more money/winning at all costs to stoke their own overdeveloped egos and convince themsleves that anyhting they do to reach that goal is justified.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. ZJ in another thread used the immortal quote 'should we ban AIM because it enourages me to cheat?'. A freudian slip methinks..

You seriously think that ZJ hasn't been on AIM/VoiP with his multi-account playing 'friends'/fellow cheats when in the big online MTT's?
There will have been an online pack of these kids cheating their way thru the big MTT's for months...sigh...

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alternatively, you could say that our allegiances are to our friends first and not to pompous, self-professed adjudicators like yourself.

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The friends of the managers of Enron and Al Capone's friends no doubt would have agreed with your statement and no doubt as well were/are fine upstanding people.

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Nicely done. I couldn't believe that blowhard.

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TO EVERYONE WHO KEEPS BIG MONEY $30,000+ ON ANY OF THE ONLINE SITES MOVE IT TO NETELLER OR YOUR BANK ACCOUNT. YOU ARE JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO TAKE YOUR MONEY AT WILL. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO SUE THEM???

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Uh, $30,000 isn't even a bankroll for most of the games that ZJ and other higher limit people play.

[suzzer99]

And remember, even if he NEVER wound up at the same table, he's still cheating by having X number of extra accounts that can be used to attack strong players, and just by the fact that everyone else has to play 6 ZeeJustins instead of one and any other unforseen way to leverage playing one MTT with more than one account.

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Raisins,

Drugs are very debatable. Some drugs which are illegal in the US, are legal in other places. Many people feel drugs are an individuals right to his own body.

Stealing personal property from another person is not the same as drugs.

You dont understand?

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Here's what I don't understand. "Victimless crimes" by virtue of being illegal do have victims. Ignore the addicts, their bodies - whatever, by purchasing illegal drugs you are supporting criminal enterprises and costing society extra money for the additional law enforcement. These are real costs and real money is taken from people's pocket to pay for that plus there is the violence that exists only in response to the market that drug users help create. My point is that this type of argument can be used for any crime. So why condemn someone for not snitching out perpetrator of crime X when giving a pass to the guy who does crime Y is OK?

raisins

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This is stunning.

Shane, I feel you here. I am neither surprised nor disappointed that people are "going after" multi accounters. It is something that needs to be done to clean up this community, particularly at a time when it seems our livelihood/recreation/whatever may be in jeopardy.

It's equally stunning to me that people are up in arms at Shane for not ratting, snitching, informing the authorities - whatever verb you're keen on using. Shane was told something in confidence and was trusted to keep it in confidence. So what you're doing here is throwing stones at Shane for keeping his word. That's ludicrous.

A man is as good as his word.

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I feel for shane and curtains too, because I would probably behave just like they did, and not sound the alarm. I think I would be wrong not to do it, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't rat anyone out.

Regardless, at some point:

"Shane was told something in confidence and was trusted to keep it in confidence."

This is a standard that is almost untenable. Imagine someone told you "in confidence" they were going to blow up a building tomorrow, with lots of people inside. It would be morally reprehensible if you kept such a thing a secret. I assume we can all agree on this. "Keeping a secret", "upholding your word", etc. can never be at the top of an ethical heirarchy.

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No, but it forms an easy escape hatch if you want to deny any moral culpability of your own.