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Old 04-27-2007, 09:09 PM
cbloom cbloom is offline
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

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i often just go ahead and bet the turn

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That doesn't really make any sense to me.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:24 PM
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

well if he isnt a retard, and bets $22 on the river instead of $10, wtf do u do?
did he stumble across a clear bluff spot? would u consider calling?

i'm happy to bluff with the best hand here
if u bet the turn, instead its villains turn to post a thread titled:

'marginal overpair (or TPTK) on turned flush board'
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

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well if he isnt a retard, and bets $22 on the river instead of $10, wtf do u do?
did he stumble across a clear bluff spot? would u consider calling?

i'm happy to bluff with the best hand here
if u bet the turn, instead its villains turn to post a thread titled:

'marginal overpair (or TPTK) on turned flush board'

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Yeah but that donkbet-call on the flop is pretty much a big hand or junk, it's basically never something that beats me that he would fold.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

i would think he does i with absolutely every TP
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

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i'm happy to bluff with the best hand here


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Im to drunk to get this.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

I bet the turn here as well, apart from anything as protection against 5's, 8's, T's and hearts on the river. Particularly if villain is awful and chases a lot. Get some value out of him/protect your hand on the turn and check the river if he calls.

It's also much easier for him to bet out with nothing on the river into a small pot where you've shown weakness than it is for him to bluff raise your second barrel on a scary turn.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

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i'm happy to bluff with the best hand here


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Im to drunk to get this.

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He means hes happy to bluff as villain on the river with a hand like a middle pair or tpnk. Even though it may be the best hand he can bluff out a fair few better hands.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

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i'm happy to bluff with the best hand here


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Im to drunk to get this.

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He means hes happy to bluff as villain on the river with a hand like a middle pair or tpnk. Even though it may be the best hand he can bluff out a fair few better hands.

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i'm happy to bluff the turn turn as hero, or bluff the river as villain. as villain i certainly bet midpair+ on the river
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Old 04-27-2007, 10:00 PM
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Bluffing the turn as Hero with K9 here blows imo since the line villain has taken is a draw a lot, which a lot of obviously got there on the turn.
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Old 04-27-2007, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: Standard donkbet defense

its not a pure bluff, its a value bet too.
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