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Old 04-24-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Confused JJ

I'm pretty sure I played this hand badly, but I'm not sure how it should have been played.

I probably should have just lead out on the flop, but I check raised.

I lead out on the turn because I figured I might get a QQ and KK to fold and if he had AA or AK he would probably raise and I could safely fold.

When he called, I was totally baffled by what he had.

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Pre-flop: (9 players) hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 3-bets</font>, 6 folds, hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, hero ?
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: Confused JJ

Just cap preflop. Reads?
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Confused JJ

Yes leading the flop is much better hear. Whats your read on villin?

If hes LP or SLAP this could be 99's easly.

When you check the flop i think alot of SLAPS an LP's just bet if they have connected in any way or have a big ace.

Looks like hes just calling with a small pair the bet on the river could be the third nine or again just betting cause you checked.

i like the R(means cap) B B B line withis hand HU with a possible B/f on the turn
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Confused JJ

His stats were TAG, but I only had about 50 hands or so.

Do I call the river?

I can't think of many hands I have beat. I usually cap preflop with JJ, but HU I tend to back off a little on some of my capping hands (JJ and AK) because I find that I'm behind 3-bettors too often.
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:34 PM
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Default Re: Confused JJ

Yes call the river no way your beat &gt;6/7 times

this is 22-66 enough of the time

although im afraide he might show you qq or KK also
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Confused JJ

He 3-bet pre-flop. What could he possibly have that doesn't have me beat. 99, TT, QQ, KK, AA, AK all have me beat JJ is a split, but very unlikely. Plus he called my turn bet when the A fell.
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Confused JJ

2's, 4's 5's 7's 8's K10s KQs KQo

IDK on second thought that river call may be a little tougher then when i firt looked at it.

caping PF and leading the flop would have been alot better
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Confused JJ

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He 3-bet pre-flop. What could he possibly have that doesn't have me beat. 99, TT, QQ, KK, AA, AK all have me beat JJ is a split, but very unlikely. Plus he called my turn bet when the A fell.

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why we need reads, whats his PFR and VPIP?

has he 3-bet alot? what hands has he showed down?

calling the turn could seriously be 22's in some cases.
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: Confused JJ

He was on the TAG side, but I had a limited sample. To me, anyone that 3 bets pre flop, calls a check raise, and then calls a bet when an Ace falls either has my JJ beat or is a horrible player and I saw no evidence he was horrible.
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Old 04-24-2007, 05:19 PM
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He was on the TAG side, but I had a limited sample. To me, anyone that 3 bets pre flop, calls a check raise, and then calls a bet when an Ace falls either has my JJ beat or is a horrible player and I saw no evidence he was horrible.

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agreed. If he was taggish this is most likly QQ or KK
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