Beware of Absolute Poker

[mntbikr15]

So they wont give you your 100 bucks that you deposited and then acted all shady about?

Good for them, Im going to open an account.

[Bigflopdaddy]

A lot of players have that sort of stuff already scanned into there computer.
That way when a pokersite or casino requests documantation you can attach it to an email and in a matter of seconds its done.

Dont give me that I dont feel comfortable giving that information crap! People deposit thousands of dollers with these places and they make millions in profits they don't care about your chump stuff.
Its all for your protection anyway.
So quit this beware and warning crap and just send them the stuff or don't

[teddyFBI]

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It shouldn't draw a red flag if I want the money sent back to the same damn card I took it off of. How the hell is that a red flag? Not to mention that I first requested a bank draft sent to my address, which is the SAME address as the credit card, made out to the SAME NAME as the credit card. That shouldn't raise any flags at all, since I fail to see how that could be a scam. If someone stole my card, wanted to put money from it onto a poker site, then wanted to withdraw money BACK ONTO IT, how the hell is that possibly fraud? How is it a scam if the money is going to the same name as on the card? Not to mention that there is NO REASON they should not allow me to continue playing if I want to in any case. The morons at customer service couldn't supply any answers to these simple questions.

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Look up money laundering in the dictionary.
And get a few subscriptions to Vibe while you're at it.

[fusting4321]

So you refuse to send in this information?

Could it be because you are underaged and cant?

I see no other reason why you would take MORE time to write this then it would to scan and send a single email and have your funds already.

[trader01]

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Look up money laundering in the dictionary.
And get a few subscriptions to Vibe while you're at it.

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I have looked up money laundering in the dictionary, and other places... and nothing tells me how to launder money using a credit card in the way I mentioned. So since you're so much smarter than me, why don't you just post here in detail exactly how one might launder money at Absolute Poker, given the circumstances I described. I'm awaiting your response...

[fusting4321]

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Look up money laundering in the dictionary.
And get a few subscriptions to Vibe while you're at it.

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I have looked up money laundering in the dictionary, and other places... and nothing tells me how to launder money using a credit card in the way I mentioned. So since you're so much smarter than me, why don't you just post here in detail exactly how one might launder money at Absolute Poker, given the circumstances I described. I'm awaiting your response...

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Are you kidding me?

Deposit dirtly money, withdraw clean money.

There you go, that was hard.

[rando]

I'll save him the trouble.

1) deposit money from a credit card.
2) request a full cashout.
3) contact credit card company to refuse payment on original deposit.
4) calculate your profit.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Maybe you are too innocent to realize how many people try this crap?

ED: Disclaimer, I'm guessing this is how it's done. Isn't it this simple?

[trader01]

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Dont give me that I dont feel comfortable giving that information crap! People deposit thousands of dollers with these places and they make millions in profits they don't care about your chump stuff.Its all for your protection anyway. So quit this beware and warning crap and just send them the stuff or don't

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Obviously you don't get it. I know that the poker site isn't going to _purposely_ screw me over by giving out my credit card information, but when I signed up on their site I NEVER agreed to let them store that information on their server for their next 10 years so someone can hack into it (a corrupt employee, internet hacker, or whomever). Offshore-based poker sites are not exactly the pinnacle of financial security, if you know what I mean, and they never told me that I would have to give up my CC info to THEM to get my money back.

For the record, there is a BIG differece between using your credit card at an offshore site one time through a trusted third party processor, and giving that information to the site itself so they can store it forever on their servers. I trust that the site itself won't steal my info, but I don't certainly don't trust their security/audit procedures OR their employeess, especially when they aren't even based in the US. Bottom line: they should have told me that I needed to submit my CC info TO THEM in order to get my money off the site, which is a fact that is explicitly mentioned nowhere. Lots of people have their CC info stolen/hacked every day because they are not careful with it.

[fusting4321]

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Dont give me that I dont feel comfortable giving that information crap! People deposit thousands of dollers with these places and they make millions in profits they don't care about your chump stuff.Its all for your protection anyway. So quit this beware and warning crap and just send them the stuff or don't

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Obviously you don't get it. I know that the poker site isn't going to _purposely_ screw me over by giving out my credit card information, but when I signed up on their site I NEVER agreed to let them store that information on their server for their next 10 years so someone can hack into it (a corrupt employee, internet hacker, or whomever). Offshore-based poker sites are not exactly the pinnacle of financial security, if you know what I mean, and they never told me that I would have to give up my CC info to THEM to get my money back.

For the record, there is a BIG differece between using your credit card at an offshore site one time through a trusted third party processor, and giving that information to the site itself so they can store it forever on their servers. I trust that the site itself won't steal my info, but I don't certainly don't trust their security/audit procedures OR their employeess, especially when they aren't even based in the US. Bottom line: they should have told me that I needed to submit my CC info TO THEM in order to get my money off the site, which is a fact that is explicitly mentioned nowhere. Lots of people have their CC info stolen/hacked every day because they are not careful with it.

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Most sites allow you to clock out all but the first 4 and last four digits.

There is another reason you wont send in your info

[trader01]

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Are you kidding me?

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No, I'm not kidding you.

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Deposit dirtly money, withdraw clean money.

There you go, that was hard.

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The only reason that wasn't hard was because you didn't explain anything. Please read my original post and explain how my actions could consitute money laundering. IN DETAIL. Money goes off a credit card, money comes back on the same credit card. Please explain how money laundering could be a part of that action.