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Anacardo mega wrong 3 2.31%
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Old 04-17-2007, 08:55 PM
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:09 PM
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WICKS FIRST BLOG IS UP ON SNGICONS.COM , EXPECT A NEW BLOG EVERY DAY......yes its so exciting its in all caps.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:22 PM
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$6.00+$PokerStars Game #9477537713: Tournament #48114551, 0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/04/17 - 22:16:55 (ET)
Table '48114551 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (4445 in chips)
Seat 5: wickss79 (4970 in chips)
Seat 6: Avery01 (4085 in chips)
wickss79: posts small blind 100
Avery01: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jon2kwik4u: folds
wickss79: raises 4200 to 4400
Avery01: folds
wickss79 collected 400 from pot
wickss79: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: wickss79 (small blind) collected (400)
Seat 6: Avery01 (big blind) folded before Flop

Umm.....Please stop shoving for 20bb!! This can't be good even as chip leader.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:35 PM
sanmarcosrun1 sanmarcosrun1 is offline
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wickss and mj congrats on the great opening week. As others have said make sure when the resources are avialable to you to take them and study videos and have HH reviewed. Please keep in mind to always question the people who are giving you the advice.

Don't always take it as ok that is what i should do. Keep the mentality as to why is this play better?, how did you come to that conclusion?, learn the thought process that goes into making decisions during a SNG as well as the thought process needed to study your game.

For the stage now it is great to study your weakness from games that you lose but also look at those games that you win and see where you could do things different and improve there. Just because you win doesnt always mean you played the best ( I know you are smart enough guy to do this already as seen from your posts).

I would reccommend using buuble trainer, sng power tools (the heads up tutorial could help you) and other such programs constantly while you are reviewing your own HH to see where you can find an edge and improve. Use this mentality for your PLO game as well. Don't overlook that game just because you are having great results either.

As others have said study everyday because no matter how good you or anyone becomes you can always improve or learn a knew way to think of things. Another persons thought process may not fit your style of game but it can help you understand the thought process of others which is important as we are in the business of capitalizing on other people's mistakes (even their strengths can be used against them).

GL at the tables.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:37 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
$6.00+$PokerStars Game #9477537713: Tournament #48114551, 0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/04/17 - 22:16:55 (ET)
Table '48114551 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (4445 in chips)
Seat 5: wickss79 (4970 in chips)
Seat 6: Avery01 (4085 in chips)
wickss79: posts small blind 100
Avery01: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jon2kwik4u: folds
wickss79: raises 4200 to 4400
Avery01: folds
wickss79 collected 400 from pot
wickss79: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: wickss79 (small blind) collected (400)
Seat 6: Avery01 (big blind) folded before Flop

Umm.....Please stop shoving for 20bb!! This can't be good even as chip leader.

[/ QUOTE ]
Dealt to wickss79 [As Qc]
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:40 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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[ QUOTE ]
$6.00+$PokerStars Game #9477537713: Tournament #48114551, 0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/04/17 - 22:16:55 (ET)
Table '48114551 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (4445 in chips)
Seat 5: wickss79 (4970 in chips)
Seat 6: Avery01 (4085 in chips)
wickss79: posts small blind 100
Avery01: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jon2kwik4u: folds
wickss79: raises 4200 to 4400
Avery01: folds
wickss79 collected 400 from pot
wickss79: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: wickss79 (small blind) collected (400)
Seat 6: Avery01 (big blind) folded before Flop

Umm.....Please stop shoving for 20bb!! This can't be good even as chip leader.

[/ QUOTE ]
Dealt to wickss79 [As Qc]

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah no hand at all should be a shove here. AQ is a great hand here, but raise it up to 500 instead.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:41 PM
sanmarcosrun1 sanmarcosrun1 is offline
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Wickss find the smallest bet that gets villians to fold here. A raise to about 500-600 is a good place to start for this type of situation. The more chips saved is the more you earn. These smaller raises allow you to bet at the flop for a good continuation bet if you are called. You can still raise ATC but you don't have to risk the majority of your stack while abusing your opponents. Hope this makes sense and feel free to shed some light on if there is a reason behind your move here as well.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:55 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
$6.00+$PokerStars Game #9477537713: Tournament #48114551, 0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/04/17 - 22:16:55 (ET)
Table '48114551 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (4445 in chips)
Seat 5: wickss79 (4970 in chips)
Seat 6: Avery01 (4085 in chips)
wickss79: posts small blind 100
Avery01: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jon2kwik4u: folds
wickss79: raises 4200 to 4400
Avery01: folds
wickss79 collected 400 from pot
wickss79: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: wickss79 (small blind) collected (400)
Seat 6: Avery01 (big blind) folded before Flop

Umm.....Please stop shoving for 20bb!! This can't be good even as chip leader.

[/ QUOTE ]
Dealt to wickss79 [As Qc]

[/ QUOTE ]


If u know BB is big enough donk to call 20bb shove with A rag hands then fine. Otherwise it's just not worth the risk/reward with AQ. When your called you'll be a big dog or at best flipping with mid pair. And why would you want a 50/50 in that situation. Still probably a slighty +ev shove with the 400 in the middle but there are better options.
I don't claim to be an expert tho and in any case there are probably more significant leaks u should worry about.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:15 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
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$6.00+$PokerStars Game #9477537713: Tournament #48114551, 0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/04/17 - 22:16:55 (ET)
Table '48114551 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (4445 in chips)
Seat 5: wickss79 (4970 in chips)
Seat 6: Avery01 (4085 in chips)
wickss79: posts small blind 100
Avery01: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jon2kwik4u: folds
wickss79: raises 4200 to 4400
Avery01: folds
wickss79 collected 400 from pot
wickss79: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 400 | Rake 0
Seat 3: jon2kwik4u (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: wickss79 (small blind) collected (400)
Seat 6: Avery01 (big blind) folded before Flop

Umm.....Please stop shoving for 20bb!! This can't be good even as chip leader.

[/ QUOTE ]
Dealt to wickss79 [As Qc]

[/ QUOTE ]


If u know BB is big enough donk to call 20bb shove with A rag hands then fine. Otherwise it's just not worth the risk/reward with AQ. When your called you'll be a big dog or at best flipping with mid pair. And why would you want a 50/50 in that situation. Still probably a slighty +ev shove with the 400 in the middle but there are better options.
I don't claim to be an expert tho and in any case there are probably more significant leaks u should worry about.

[/ QUOTE ]I agree with your assessment. It seems that the t200 level is the hardest for me to play when I have over 10x BB.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:32 PM
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Well you got him to start moving in.. now you have to refine the situations.. big difference between bubble play and moving in 3 handed with virtually the same chip stacks for 20bb
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