Today I became a pro.

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what about this hand?
PokerStars Game #9457155817: Tournament #48012493, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/04/16 - 18:31:02 (ET)
Table '48012493 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: wickss79 (3870 in chips)
Seat 4: taso1 (5930 in chips)
Seat 6: RYMalamutes (1335 in chips)
Seat 8: rrecker (2365 in chips)
wickss79: posts the ante 50
taso1: posts the ante 50
RYMalamutes: posts the ante 50
rrecker: posts the ante 50
taso1: posts small blind 300
RYMalamutes: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
rrecker: folds
wickss79: raises 600 to 1200
RYMalamutes said, "all in"
taso1: raises 4680 to 5880 and is all-in
RYMalamutes: folds
wickss79: folds
taso1 collected 3200 from pot
taso1: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3200 | Rake 0
Seat 1: wickss79 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 4: taso1 (small blind) collected (3200)
Seat 6: RYMalamutes (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: rrecker folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Short stack is about to go out. I was probably in a bad situation against SB. I wanted to play the short stack AIPF with this hand. Not the SB. That is why I didn't go all in.

[/ QUOTE ]Like I said, unless the SB is a muppet, he's shoving ATC vs. you here. Push or fold.

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Wow...I'm glad I don't play sngs anymore. If, in fact, only the worse players at the $6.50s don't know to shove any two here, you sng players are in trouble.

When I left the $109s at party in late November, there were very few capable of shoving any two here.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't see SB pushing ATC here. BB has 735 left after posting blind. How much FE could SB possibly have? What would be the logic of SB pushing ATC here? Why wouldn't he just let me take BB out without risking crippling his stack?

I don't like shoving here because I want to fold if SB wakes up with a powerful hand. Folding seems better than shoving, but I have a good hand that can put BB out.

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and pleaseeee take a photo of you two high fiving over a pizza at the end of a tough day..please!

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[/ QUOTE ]I'm still working on this. I have something in store tonight that I think you might like.

[MrTynKyn]

MJ: Im writting to you cause I think you need to put some strong hand in the coaching of wickss.
I dont want to talk about the AT hand and his reasoning on pass over the chip leader with a 2BB raise. The forum says all he need to know.
I think we are missing something , my dear MJ: The best players of sng are in icons ( at leats a few) . If wickss take seriously the blog , a lot of good players will put opinions . Maybe ( and this is only an advice cause I dont want to pass over you) you could take some HH , put in the blog and see what happened . Another : at the end of the day you could put the progress of wickss.
The 6.50 are great to build a BR , but 16 are plenty of regulars , so wickss will need a better knowledge before goes up . I walked all the streets wickss are walking .
Always great to talk with you.

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MJ: Im writting to you cause I think you need to put some strong hand in the coaching of wickss.
I dont want to talk about the AT hand and his reasoning on pass over the chip leader with a 2BB raise. The forum says all he need to know.
I think we are missing something , my dear MJ: The best players of sng are in icons ( at leats a few) . If wickss take seriously the blog , a lot of good players will put opinions . Maybe ( and this is only an advice cause I dont want to pass over you) you could take some HH , put in the blog and see what happened . Another : at the end of the day you could put the progress of wickss.
The 6.50 are great to build a BR , but 16 are plenty of regulars , so wickss will need a better knowledge before goes up . I walked all the streets wickss are walking .
Always great to talk with you.

[/ QUOTE ]Always great to talk with you as well. You are a faithful friend, a steady and stabilizing influence. Do you play poker for a living, or if not, what is your day job?

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PokerStars Game #9457155817: Tournament #48012493, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/04/16 - 18:31:02 (ET)
Table '48012493 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: wickss79 (3870 in chips)
Seat 4: taso1 (5930 in chips)
Seat 6: RYMalamutes (1335 in chips)
Seat 8: rrecker (2365 in chips)
wickss79: posts the ante 50
taso1: posts the ante 50
RYMalamutes: posts the ante 50
rrecker: posts the ante 50
taso1: posts small blind 300
RYMalamutes: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
rrecker: folds
wickss79: raises 600 to 1200
RYMalamutes said, "all in"
taso1: raises 4680 to 5880 and is all-in
RYMalamutes: folds
wickss79: folds
taso1 collected 3200 from pot
taso1: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3200 | Rake 0
Seat 1: wickss79 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 4: taso1 (small blind) collected (3200)
Seat 6: RYMalamutes (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: rrecker folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Short stack is about to go out. I was probably in a bad situation against SB. I wanted to play the short stack AIPF with this hand. Not the SB. That is why I didn't go all in.

[/ QUOTE ]Like I said, unless the SB is a muppet, he's shoving ATC vs. you here. Push or fold.

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Wow...I'm glad I don't play sngs anymore. If, in fact, only the worse players at the $6.50s don't know to shove any two here, you sng players are in trouble.

When I left the $109s at party in late November, there were very few capable of shoving any two here.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't see SB pushing ATC here. BB has 735 left after posting blind. How much FE could SB possibly have? What would be the logic of SB pushing ATC here? Why wouldn't he just let me take BB out without risking crippling his stack?

I don't like shoving here because I want to fold if SB wakes up with a powerful hand. Folding seems better than shoving, but I have a good hand that can put BB out.

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SB is not pushing atc here unless he knows what hes doing, but there are very few at the 16s who push atc here I imagine there are even fewer at the 6.50s most likely he has a hand.

Oh and to answer your question, because you cant call.

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I don't see SB pushing ATC here. BB has 735 left after posting blind. How much FE could SB possibly have? What would be the logic of SB pushing ATC here? Why wouldn't he just let me take BB out without risking crippling his stack?


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Once you donk-raised, SB would push ATC knowing that you have to fold regardless of your hand since BB will be blinded off in two hands.

There is no reason for you to attack the shorty BB through the monster SB with these stack sizes. Donking off 1/3 of your chips here is sick.

If you meant to induce BB to shove if SB called, then it back-fired b/c SB had a clue and BB knew it.

There is a difference between plays that are +CEV and those that are +$EV. In these circumstances, you need to learn how to recognize what makes you the most money, not the most chips...... /rant

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Once you donk-raised, SB would push ATC knowing that you have to fold regardless of your hand since BB will be blinded off in two hands.

There is no reason for you to attack the shorty BB through the monster SB with these stack sizes. Donking off 1/3 of your chips here is sick.

If you meant to induce BB to shove if SB called, then it back-fired b/c SB had a clue and BB knew it.

There is a difference between plays that are +CEV and those that are +$EV. In these circumstances, you need to learn how to recognize what makes you the most money, not the most chips...... /rant

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people need to remember it's a six-fifty
and that our opponents are not so thrifty

second level thinking is no good here
more likely our opponents had too much beer

if our opponent thinks like this
we'd better give the six-fifties a miss

pushing and folding is the key
min-raising and crap is not for me

[MrTynKyn]

MJ : I play poker for a living , I hate the job. Im very lazy. My last job ( a year a half before) was 1:30 hr at day in a computer , and I left. Try to guess how lazy Im.
I have played 6.5 and 16 a lot , this is why Im writting some advice. Although I havent a coach , so the things were very different and hard for me. If I only would live in Kansas !!!

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Once you donk-raised, SB would push ATC knowing that you have to fold regardless of your hand since BB will be blinded off in two hands.

There is no reason for you to attack the shorty BB through the monster SB with these stack sizes. Donking off 1/3 of your chips here is sick.

If you meant to induce BB to shove if SB called, then it back-fired b/c SB had a clue and BB knew it.

There is a difference between plays that are +CEV and those that are +$EV. In these circumstances, you need to learn how to recognize what makes you the most money, not the most chips...... /rant

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people need to remember it's a six-fifty
and that our opponents are not so thrifty

second level thinking is no good here
more likely our opponents had too much beer

if our opponent thinks like this
we'd better give the six-fifties a miss

pushing and folding is the key
min-raising and crap is not for me

[/ QUOTE ]Josem = the new Slacker. Take your throne back Slack.

[mjnumb23]

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MJ : I play poker for a living , I hate the job. Im very lazy. My last job ( a year a half before) was 1:30 hr at day in a computer , and I left. Try to guess how lazy Im.
I have played 6.5 and 16 a lot , this is why Im writting some advice. Although I havent a coach , so the things were very different and hard for me. If I only would live in Kansas !!!

[/ QUOTE ]Soon, I may be coaching every online poker player. Is this good or bad for the future of poker?