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Old 03-24-2007, 04:37 PM
Kyer Kyer is offline
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Default Pushing is easy. But calling....

In the $20 / 10K guaranteed:

Down to 23 players:
My stack ~40K (below average), blinds 2K/4K w 200 ante or so.
Villain who covers me slightly and who has pushed a LOT from LP, pushes from UTG+2, I´m next to act with AJs and fold.

The next hand the same guy makes a standard raise for the very first time since I´m at the table. I fold my AQo.

Weak-tight or standard (especially hand 2)?

(My judgement is blurred by how the tourney went on and the spot i chose to finally put my chips in might have been even worse ...)
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Pushing is easy. But calling....

Im folding the AJ but it's close..
From where did he make the standard raise? and what was it(assuming 3x?) I think im pushing AQ
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Pushing is easy. But calling....

It was the very next hand: so he was UTG+1
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Pushing is easy. But calling....

Assuming tables are shorthanded I would probably fold #1 (but maybe call depending on how much he had be raising). And I would almost always call #2.
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Pushing is easy. But calling....

Since he was standard raising for the first time with an M of now 6, it was screaming AA/KK, besides do you really think calling a 35% of your stack can be an option here? I´m in position, I can´t even SNG...
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Old 03-24-2007, 05:36 PM
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Since he was standard raising for the first time with an M of now 6, it was screaming AA/KK, besides do you really think calling a 35% of your stack can be an option here? I´m in position, I can´t even SNG...

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Sorry. Misread the 2nd one. I thought he pushed. Given that he standard raised I'd shove even without FE. When my M is as low as yours I'm probably not folding AQ unless two people go in in front of me (with good size stacks). Especially short-handed. If someone else picked up a bigger hand, oh well.
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Old 03-24-2007, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Pushing is easy. But calling....

How many handed?
The first one is an easy fold
The second one is probabyl also a fold.
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: Pushing is easy. But calling....

How long have you been at the table with the villain for?

First hand is an easy fold.

However for the second hand, if its first standard raise since 300 hands, i'd consider to fold, otherwise regarding your M, I would move in.
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: Pushing is easy. But calling....

I think you should go with the first hand. UTG+2 with at least 7 ppl at the table he cant be pushing with too bad of a hand, but going all in makes me think he has a middle pair trying to keep out the mediocre hands with overs and with ur stack I think you should be looking to double up to put yourself in decent chip position to make a good run. All of this is assuming hes been pretty active. Anyone else think this way or am I thinking too simple?
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Old 03-25-2007, 07:11 AM
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I think you should go with the first hand. UTG+2 with at least 7 ppl at the table he cant be pushing with too bad of a hand, but going all in makes me think he has a middle pair trying to keep out the mediocre hands with overs and with ur stack I think you should be looking to double up to put yourself in decent chip position to make a good run. All of this is assuming hes been pretty active. Anyone else think this way or am I thinking too simple?

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Too simple. He probably plays at least AJ+ the same away, and against a range of AJ+ and 66+, OP is in bad shape.

I'd probably shove the AQ unless the standard raise is suspicious. Had he been shoving weak and strong hands alike with 10xBB's and never open shoving with more than that? If so, I'd shove the AQ. But as someone else pointed out, if he had been shove shove shoving, and suddenly made a standard raise, I could see pitching AQ.
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