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Old 03-21-2007, 10:15 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.


Level 4
200/400/25

SB - 8,000
BB - 12,000
UTG - 9,700
Hero has 11,000

Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the CO.
'The Old Guy' raises to 1200 UTG, Hero Calls, BB calls.

Flop (3800): K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB checks, 'The Old Guy' checks, Hero checks

Turn (3800): 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, Old guy bets 2,000, Hero...?
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

did he turn a set or delayed CB AA? you beat QQ, JJ, and not much else. i hate to fold top pair, but this is not looking good. the board is too dry for bluffing opportunities.
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

I'd fold preflop, check flop, call turn with the intention of not putting in anymore chips (although I would call if the BB pushes and I pick up weakness).
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

I would bet flop 100% because BB is not calling (flop missed like 90% of his calling range pf) and if UTG nit calls, you're DONE with the hand. By doing this, you fold out everything UTG nit raised with that you beat, but this is a very good thing since you won't pay him off later in the hand thinking you have the best hand here IN CASE he does have AK/AA/KK here.

I would bet half-pot on the flop, it's the perfect amount. In addition, I would bet on the flop with any two cards. UTG calling here and giving you more action essentially turn your hand into any two.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

As played I think it's standard to call turn fold river. I cannot see him dbl barrelling or betting QQ/JJ on the river if you call his 2k bet on the turn.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:05 AM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

Preflop is also pretty [censored] bad.
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

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Old 03-22-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

From your original post it sounds like the old man plays fairly straight forward. If he has a decent, but vulnerable hand he will bet it. If he has AK or AA in this spot, I think he is betting the flop. If he has TT-QQ I think he will probably check fold. If he has KK, he will probably slowplay it.

When he checks the flop I think you are behind exactly KK. I would definitely bet the flop because you need to figure out what the guy has. Yes, you might not get max value if he has QQ, but you need to find out if he has a good hand now.

On to the turn..

When he bets the turn he could easily have TT-KK, and now its pretty much a guess. I am going to call the bet and see what he does on the river. Most people will not bet TT-QQ on the river because it does have showdown value. If he fires again you might be getting outplayed, but I think you should probably fold.

On a side note, I dont think the old man has any idea you have a king. I would expect anyone with a king to bet the flop in your position. When you call 4th street he is going to be pretty confused to your holding, but he might think it is you with something like TT.

So basically as played I would call the turn, and fold to any decently sized river bet.
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

haha you don't need to bet to figure out where old nits are at, they tell you. and if bb bets the turn, you will know exactly where the old nit is at.
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: Caesars (130.) KTs street by street.

Call turn.
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