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Old 03-07-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

no one who claimed they'd fold AA here would actually do it
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

shane i actually prefer a minraise or some smallish raise to calling. i would hate to see a 6 way turn with AA here, which could very easily happen if someone holds hearts, someone 35, another 87 (double gutty), and other random holdings like middle pair etc, but i wouldnt want to put in a lot to cut down the action.

i think this is an option and people are being results oriented about it, but the more i think about it, i think the fold is good just to avoid [censored] spots in the future at a tough table.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

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no one who claimed they'd fold AA here would actually do it

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Strongly disagree. I think most good players are aware of how difficult it is to show a profit in these situations.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

Would people fold if they had the Ah?
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

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no one who claimed they'd fold AA here would actually do it

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Strongly disagree. I think most good players are aware of how difficult it is to show a profit in these situations.

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i'm not necessarily saying it's a bad fold, i just think literally 0 people who said they would fold in this thread actually would have (including you).

i would have called. i think its trivially easy to show a profit by calling the flop here and not sucking at playing the rest of the hand. and i'm basing this on how good i think the other players in the pot are + how passive everyone on the show has been playing draws/basically any hands on the turn+river.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

and of course, all the results-oriented fishies who think it's a great fold, would be trashing wasicka as a weak/tight nit if brunson has AT and wins a big pot from farha or elezra's JT/other garbage.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

Todd leads better than a pair here like never?
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

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Todd leads better than a pair here like never?

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I think OOP and with a strong hand, you'd need to bet out against the flush and straight draws. Or atleast C/R, but that's never a guarantee.

Why wouldn't he lead out with better than a pair?
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

I think folding, calling, and raising are all reasonable based on your read on the sb.
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Old 03-08-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: Paul Wasicka\'s AA fold in HSP

my default fwiw with AT+ in his spot is raise the flop, if someone 3bets behind its an easy muck with anything smaller then bottom set (how can he have two pair here?) or a big draw (NFD or gutshot+flush) and then in position it depends on the turn card but generally check behind and call a river bet or value bet (on some rivers)
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