minnesota LHE players - Page 5

hoppscot22 · #41 03-02-2007, 05:24 PM

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Its funny that many 6 players have foregone the 8 game altogether, because of the swinginess. I think playing 2 years in the 8 game helped to me to absorb bad beats better and therefore tilt less. Avoiding profitable situations because you might take a few nasty beats or run bad for awhile is not a great mindset if you are trying to become a great player.

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this is actually something i do not necessarily agree with. Some people are great poker players but simply can not deal with ridiculous things over and over again, therefore they play a lower variance game with lower EV swing decisions.
Though, passing the 8/16 game may be giving up some EV, i think for a certain type of person it is not as bad as you make it seem.

I think that there are very good players out there that if they looked at themselves very closely, and their play in different situations, that should alter their game selection to increase their EV, just simply based on how they play/how they react to poor play.

Didn't word that exactly as i wanted but hopefully you get the jist.

hoppscot22 · #42 03-02-2007, 05:27 PM

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yes, that is me. DoI know you?

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I played with you a while back, i think 15/30.
over break i played a lot and didn't see you once. Ill maybe see you next weekend.

PS i hope Dave is there so i can bust his pocket kings (he gets them every other round, and they hold)

MitchL · #43 03-02-2007, 05:57 PM

My contention is not they are wrong just that they will never be "great" players, or succeed at higher limits where higher variance is inevitable. In the 8 game people are loose aggressive in a very exploitable way. If a player cannot handle the variance in this game they most likely will not be able to succeed at 30/60 or above.

PorkchopDJG · #44 03-02-2007, 06:05 PM

Hey Mitch I may not be a "great" player but I do OK. I've played in many very loose 4/8 games so I know how they play and how to win in them. Like it's been said on here the 8/16 has very high variance and you can go on a bad run and loose a lot in a very short time. The 6/12 I play is still losse but not "crazy capping lose" and that is what I prefer. The profits may not be as big but you won't be having huge swings like you can at 8/16.

hoppscot22 · #45 03-02-2007, 08:19 PM

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My contention is not they are wrong just that they will never be "great" players, or succeed at higher limits where higher variance is inevitable. In the 8 game people are loose aggressive in a very exploitable way. If a player cannot handle the variance in this game they most likely will not be able to succeed at 30/60 or above.

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higher limit games dont play like the 8/16 game... though the variance could be similar

PokerBob · #46 03-03-2007, 12:33 AM

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My contention is not they are wrong just that they will never be "great" players, or succeed at higher limits where higher variance is inevitable. In the 8 game people are loose aggressive in a very exploitable way. If a player cannot handle the variance in this game they most likely will not be able to succeed at 30/60 or above.

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higher limit games dont play like the 8/16 game... though the variance could be similar

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true. the higher limit games often can play much tougher.

MitchL · #47 03-03-2007, 01:19 AM

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Hey Mitch I may not be a "great" player but I do OK. I've played in many very loose 4/8 games so I know how they play and how to win in them. Like it's been said on here the 8/16 has very high variance and you can go on a bad run and loose a lot in a very short time. The 6/12 I play is still losse but not "crazy capping lose" and that is what I prefer. The profits may not be as big but you won't be having huge swings like you can at 8/16.

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Again not putting you down. Just saying that it is in your best interest as a gambler to get over your fear of wild games. I always get suspicous when people tell me they would rather play in games where there is less erratic play. If they mean loose and passive then I agree, but the answer is not to bypass an easier 8/16 game to play in a tougher, "less swingy" 15/30 game.

MitchL · #48 03-03-2007, 01:26 AM

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My contention is not they are wrong just that they will never be "great" players, or succeed at higher limits where higher variance is inevitable. In the 8 game people are loose aggressive in a very exploitable way. If a player cannot handle the variance in this game they most likely will not be able to succeed at 30/60 or above.

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higher limit games dont play like the 8/16 game... though the variance could be similar

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This is obvious, and my basic point that learning to deal with variance as a precursor to success at higher limits still stands.

iFlopGood · #49 03-03-2007, 01:34 PM

Icracked that suckers Aces last night.

rogue8 · #50 03-03-2007, 02:57 PM

agreed. the 15/30 game is as juicy as it gets. calling it a joke is a good description. i was wondering if it was this bad everywhere or if we are just blessed to have canterbury. the 30 game used to be soooo good but lately its been tougher. i remember grinding 8/16. people call it unbeatable bc its so bad lol. lets call it a good "long term game" haha.