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Old 03-01-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s

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I don't think there's any other way to play this hand.

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sure there is, you could fold the flop. Of course, when I hit the nuts like that, I too must raise. Every other street is not open to debate.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s

I feel a bit better knowing others here play this hand the way I did.

I showed my cards first, since I was the bettor, and two guys at the table were shocked I didn't have TT, because they said "my man's got to have a set of sevens over there!" and sure enough villain turned over the case two 7s for a hand that had me drawing basically dead on the flop.

My image immediately became that of "spewtard," an image I don't think I've ever had before. I tried to capitalize on it, unfortunately I was attacked by a series of runner-runner drawouts and sick 2-outers the rest of the session.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s

Everythign is standard except the flop. It think its close between raising and calling. I tend to call in these spots. If it was the original raiser betting, I raise this everytime. I find that when its multi-way and someone in MP donks the flop thats not the orginal raiser, they usually have at least top pair (and dont slow down)- from the later action I appear to be wrong- but thats usally what I find.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s

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I feel a bit better knowing others here play this hand the way I did.

I showed my cards first, since I was the bettor, and two guys at the table were shocked I didn't have TT, because they said "my man's got to have a set of sevens over there!" and sure enough villain turned over the case two 7s for a hand that had me drawing basically dead on the flop.

My image immediately became that of "spewtard," an image I don't think I've ever had before. I tried to capitalize on it, unfortunately I was attacked by a series of runner-runner drawouts and sick 2-outers the rest of the session.

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i like the way you played the hand but doesn't the check 3bet scream set to you?? if not, what do you put the SB on?

SB has to slow down on the turn with the straight card, which you could easily have since you posted

is SB capable of check 3betting with just 1 pair, possible over pair maybe, just curious as to what you think
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:42 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s

I'll join the chorus... Nice hand, PJ.

I think you might consider stacking your chips in something other than a pyramid...
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:57 PM
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i like the way you played the hand but doesn't the check 3bet scream set to you?? if not, what do you put the SB on?

SB has to slow down on the turn with the straight card, which you could easily have since you posted

is SB capable of check 3betting with just 1 pair, possible over pair maybe, just curious as to what you think

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Seeing as how he's an unknown, his range has to include: set, overpair, AT, KT, 2 pair, 98s (OESD), and maybe some bizarre hand I hadn't accounted for. Yes, after the 3-bet obviously I knew I was significantly behind. But when I turned 2 pair, I had to raise for value, knowing that if 3-bet I was most likely dead. But when he just called my turn raise and checked the river, AT seemed the most likely candidate, don't you think?
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s

Maybe I'm being results-oriented (I did read the results), but when I saw SB's check-3-bet, I'm thinking that he's probably got at least 2 pair here. The turn doesn't change our relative hand strength unless he's got exactly 74 (which is unlikely considering that we have a 7 - T4 is his most likely 2-pair hand). I'd be very tempted to just call down from the turn (but I play weak sometimes, I know).
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s

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i like the way you played the hand but doesn't the check 3bet scream set to you?? if not, what do you put the SB on?

SB has to slow down on the turn with the straight card, which you could easily have since you posted

is SB capable of check 3betting with just 1 pair, possible over pair maybe, just curious as to what you think

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Seeing as how he's an unknown, his range has to include: set, overpair, AT, KT, 2 pair, 98s (OESD), and maybe some bizarre hand I hadn't accounted for. Yes, after the 3-bet obviously I knew I was significantly behind. But when I turned 2 pair, I had to raise for value, knowing that if 3-bet I was most likely dead. But when he just called my turn raise and checked the river, AT seemed the most likely candidate, don't you think?

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i agree with this, but i think the turn scared the SB. other than that i think you played it fine, just unfortunate he had what he had.

if you have no true read on him, then AT seems the most logical.
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 Hand 1: 75s

Definitely the right decision to raise on the flop you've got middle pair with a couple back doors (flush/straight/2nd pair) and you don't have top pair so if you don't hit the turn you most likely get to check the turn for half price. Pretty standard, well played!
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