Most unbeatable record

[Bill Murphy]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, but average 200 hits for 21 seasons and you're still short!

[/ QUOTE ]

Has anyone done an estimate on how many hits Ichiro would have had he played his entire career in the U.S.?

[Bill Murphy]

That Secretariat fella's two records have stood for 34 years now, and no one's even remotely threatened the latter of the two.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Cy Young is the answer, but nobody mentioned the right record.

749 complete games.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow, yeah this is the one. I also like the Tatis record because being in the situation of hitting three times in an inning is rare, add that to having the bases loaded each time, add that to hitting a home rune each time = impossible.
My friend suggested that Randy Johnson's record of most birds killed with a fastball in an inning is pretty safe as well.

[/ QUOTE ]

We have to keep in mind that some of these records (like the one Tatis has with two grand slams in an inning) are different from the others.

With some of the longer records that speak to excellence and/or durability (i.e Gretzky, Rose, Cy Young, etc), at least an upcoming player can strive towards these. Crosby can try to break some of Gretzky's records, and he might get close to a couple (though I doubt it).

With a record like Tatis', though, it's not possible to practice for it, or strive for it, or improve your game for it. If by some freak of nature it got broken, it could just as likely be by an Alex Rios as an Albert Pujols. I mean it's a cool record to have, but it happened because the stars were aligned just right, unlike the excellence over time records that are mentioned on this thread.

It would be nice to have some categories.

1) Lifetime acheivement records that won't be broken
2) Amazing seasons - records from one season that won't be broken.
3) Amazing games - records from one game that won't be broken
4) Other - (such as the Tatis record)

[JaredL]

I'm assuming that they had this info when it happened. Does anybody know how many times a player has been up to bat twice in the same inning and both times the bases were loaded?

[David H]

[ QUOTE ]
Oscar averaging a triple double. Need to average a quad double to beat that.

[/ QUOTE ]
Wouldn't averaging a better triple double count as breaking the record?

[DrewDevil]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Cy Young is the answer, but nobody mentioned the right record.

749 complete games.

[/ QUOTE ]

Wow, yeah this is the one. I also like the Tatis record because being in the situation of hitting three times in an inning is rare, add that to having the bases loaded each time, add that to hitting a home rune each time = impossible.
My friend suggested that Randy Johnson's record of most birds killed with a fastball in an inning is pretty safe as well.

[/ QUOTE ]

We have to keep in mind that some of these records (like the one Tatis has with two grand slams in an inning) are different from the others.

With some of the longer records that speak to excellence and/or durability (i.e Gretzky, Rose, Cy Young, etc), at least an upcoming player can strive towards these. Crosby can try to break some of Gretzky's records, and he might get close to a couple (though I doubt it).

With a record like Tatis', though, it's not possible to practice for it, or strive for it, or improve your game for it. If by some freak of nature it got broken, it could just as likely be by an Alex Rios as an Albert Pujols. I mean it's a cool record to have, but it happened because the stars were aligned just right, unlike the excellence over time records that are mentioned on this thread.

It would be nice to have some categories.

1) Lifetime acheivement records that won't be broken
2) Amazing seasons - records from one season that won't be broken.
3) Amazing games - records from one game that won't be broken
4) Other - (such as the Tatis record)

[/ QUOTE ]

This is an excellent post and I am in favor of these 4 categories. The really fluky records are just chance... I was at a minor league game once where 6 batters in a row hit home runs, and that was apparently the most ever in that league... whereas breaking the single-season stolen bases record, or the all-time HR record, are much different.

[Clarkmeister]

[ QUOTE ]
That Secretariat fella's two records have stood for 34 years now, and no one's even remotely threatened the latter of the two.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think he's the greatest US horse of all time, but the records have been aided by the fact that tracks are much slower than they used to be.

[HajiShirazu]

I'm sure many of you saw the ESPN article today like me, but this Nuxhall who pitched in the bigs for the Reds at age 15yrs 10mos might have an unbreakable record.

[AngusThermopyle]

Shortest MLB player: 3'7"

[MicroBob]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm sure many of you saw the ESPN article today like me, but this Nuxhall who pitched in the bigs for the Reds at age 15yrs 10mos might have an unbreakable record.

[/ QUOTE ]


I didn't see the article so just checked it out.
Saddened to hear he's hospitalized.

any fan of the Reds is familiar with Nuxhall and his accomplishment partly because he was a radio announcer for the team for about 12 centuries.

He pitched 1 game for the Reds when he was 15 in 1944.
He got 2 outs I think and ended up with a couple of hit-batters, wild-pitches, a few walks, etc.

Youngest player to appear in a major-league game appears to be a fairly safe record thanks to child-labor laws.

He went back to pitching at high-school and eventually made his way up to the majors again where he had a pretty decent career.

"The ol' left-hander" is a Cincinnati legend. I've met him on several occasions.

the joke in Cincinnati through the 70s and 80s was that you could tell how late into the game it was by the slur in Nuxhall's voice (presumably how many beers into the game he was).
He was kind of Cincinnati's Harry Carey.