jaime gold = spew

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Whether it's J6o or 52s is irrelevent. Knowing the specific cards doesn't give you any more relevent information.


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Um, this is wrong. If I have little to no read on how a guy is playing and I see he raised pre-flop with J2o in MP, I'm going to think a lot differently of him than if he did it with 98s. Knowing what he limped/called a raise/raised with pre-flop is extremely relevant.

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This may make you feel more comfortable, but it is bad. You already have a read, you know that he's playing more than just 98s because he is frequently in the pot, and you've seen him on TV.

Once someone is caught with trash you don't know whether they'll change their play. Especially Jamie Gold who is way too tricky for his own good. Against him, you just want to play ABC while putting him on a fairly wide hand range, and let him hang himself. Obviously you are playing a strategy where he can't beat you through bluffing trash. So if he's playing J2o, don't make him show it and he will likely continue playing into your hands.

[Ghazban]

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When a fish is at your table, handing out money, and you like the fact that he is handing you money, you may consider letting him bend the rules a bit on showing his bluffs.

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This is basically right. It's just idiotic to show up somebody who's giving away chips.

For those of you saying you "paid to see his cards", you should already know his cards. When the board is A,K,x,y,K, your opponent bets, you call, and he says "You got it", you don't need to see J6o, 52s or whatever hand he actually had. You've already got the information you need- your oppopnent bluffs on the river with no hand. Whether it's J6o or 52s is irrelevent. Knowing the specific cards doesn't give you any more relevent information.

Take the money. Let your opponent save face. Watch him repeat the same mistake. Take the money again.

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Absolutely correct. These issues greatly outweigh the added info you'd get from knowing if the opponent is making that particular play with 22 or J6o or 76s or whatever.

[DameNingen]

Weird that the thread became a discussion about mucking/showing hands when in fact Gold played like a superdonk and got humiliated by Doyle calling his raise on the river fairly quickly with Ace high...
When gold actually had Aces he played them equally dumb by going all in preflop instead of keeping his single opponent (2nd worst at the table by far) in the hand and let him catch something. His table image was definately weak enough so that Ramdin would`ve at least called him down with anything (or in the actual case bet at any flop).

I gave Gold the benefit of the doubt before that play, (=making idiot plays to lure an opponent in when he actually has a real hand) but by wasting this great chance in such a donkalicious way... He`s really a bad player.
I`m sure Ramdin would ve bet on ANY kind of flop after his $8k raise and that would`ve been Gold`s chance to cash in.
So if (!!!) Gold had actually planned this out he wouldn`t have wasted this chance, because that would`ve been EXACTLY the hand he was hoping for, holding AA and see a big raise from another player.
After seeing this hand I doubt that he`s thinking anything at all while playing and the donkplay before was no setup at all, but just, well...donkplay.

[True North]

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Weird that the thread became a discussion about mucking/showing hands when in fact Gold played like a superdonk and got humiliated by Doyle calling his raise on the river fairly quickly with Ace high...
When gold actually had Aces he played them equally dumb by going all in preflop instead of keeping his single opponent (2nd worst at the table by far) in the hand and let him catch something. His table image was definately weak enough so that Ramdin would`ve at least called him down with anything (or in the actual case bet at any flop).

I gave Gold the benefit of the doubt before that play, (=making idiot plays to lure an opponent in when he actually has a real hand) but by wasting this great chance in such a donkalicious way... He`s really a bad player.
I`m sure Ramdin would ve bet on ANY kind of flop after his $8k raise and that would`ve been Gold`s chance to cash in.
So if (!!!) Gold had actually planned this out he wouldn`t have wasted this chance, because that would`ve been EXACTLY the hand he was hoping for, holding AA and see a big raise from another player.
After seeing this hand I doubt that he`s thinking anything at all while playing and the donkplay before was no setup at all, but just, well...donkplay.

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Quoted for emphasis. I liked Mike saying he would've staked his life on the fact Gold had aces, it was that obvious.

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Alaei must be gutted. Having position on Gold for all that time without managing to take advantage of it.

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Probably equally gutted that he got donked out on by Ramdin for 30K+

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I really don't get the hate for this guy. I understand that he comes off as a bit smug and arrogant, but so do a lot of players. He was very complimentary of Doyle, and it seemed to me like everyone enjoyed interacting with him at the table.

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There seems to be no genuineness behind his compliments. He also was sorta trashing Cunningham who is ten times the player he is. Combine that with the smug luckbox factor and the constant need of affirmation for his play from other players is why I hate the guy.

[punkass]

Gold loves the A-rag a lot, I see. It's painful to watch him on tv. I know he's going to lose, and feel sorry for him. He's a WSOP champion, and he gets no respect. Kudos.

[diziet]

Jamie Gold -- the Eddie Haskell of poker.

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IT IS INCREDIBLY STANDARD FOR SOMEONE CAUGHT BLUFFING TO GO AHEAD AND INDICATE HE WAS BLUFFING AND THE OTHER PLAYER TO SHOW HIS HAND TO TAKE THE POT. ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS BEING RIDICULOUS.

[Imrahil]

When I was watching it last night, I was like "WOW, 2+2 is going to have a field day with JGs play".