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Old 02-05-2007, 11:11 AM
themobfather themobfather is offline
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

ya as played I shove river
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

I generally 3bet flop as no one ever gives it respect as 99% of players will call the raise with a big pair to c/r turn.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:22 AM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

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bet $1,000.

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This is very bad.

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no, it's not.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

I think a strong bet on the river looks good. A smaller bet would look like a suck bet and might arouse suspicion, but a larger bet might make him think you're representing the flush. I'd probably bet around 4k, so that the decision is tough assuming he has any sort of hand and it looks like you're leaving some chips behind in case he comes over the top on you. If he's got a decent hand you've got a good shot of getting called, and if he think you're bluffing he might reraise for more value.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

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bet $1,000.

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no, it's not.

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Are you trying to induce a bluff? Give some reasoning why 1k is a good bet size.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

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bet $1,000.

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This is very bad.

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no, it's not.

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lol
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:37 AM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

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bet $1,000.

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This is very bad.

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no, it's not.

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Are you trying to induce a bluff? Give some reasoning why 1k is a good bet size.

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obv.

Look, as others have already stated, I've either blown him off his air or whatever he has or pumped the pot up bigger by now but given how we got here the only way you're getting your money in here is if you can induce him to shove. Maybe 1500 or whatever is better but LOL at thinking he's going to read your river shove as a bluff. WTF are we bluffing with here? I think a fake blocker is much better here.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

I like the weak turn lead or flop 3bet.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: How do i extract maximum value from top pro in 100r?

make it 3k on the turn and shove the river. he's underbet the turn so grossly that even this relatively small raise should draw him in unless he has total garbage. i mean, build a [censored] pot already, get his stack. he bets less on the turn than he did on the flop and you just call. i think that's criminal.
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:35 PM
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make it 3k on the turn and shove the river. he's underbet the turn so grossly that even this relatively small raise should draw him in unless he has total garbage. i mean, build a [censored] pot already, get his stack. he bets less on the turn than he did on the flop and you just call. i think that's criminal.

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I like a turn shove. I want him to think his weak bet induced a pure bluff or we are semi-bluffing with a hand like A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] . A turn shove is only pot sized, so its not a big overbet.
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