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Old 01-29-2007, 12:10 PM
speedgun speedgun is offline
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

Actually I agree with all of you. I am happy that I did the right thing when I instacalled this. Only as a second thought the 'why did I even bother?' argument crossed my mind so wanted to see if it is something anyone would advocate here.

To my surprise he showed AA. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I hit the miracle nut flush on the river except the flop was A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

I didn't really think anyone would play AA this way. but the problem was, this guy sucked.

I checked him up on pokerdb, found he never won any significant money playing MTTs although he made into small money here and there (more than 20 times and usually the minimum prize) over the last 8 month or so. I don't know how many tournies he played, but it definately looks like he is losing money playing them.

All of his small wins were in the lower buy-in tournies, mostly $3 rebuys and $11 freezes. So he was also out of his comfort zone here.

I wonder if this information would have changed my decision if I had it at that time.

Anyway, just for fun, obviously he became the chip leader after this. He went all-in again two hands later to a limper. I gave him an lol and he proudly said 'QQ'. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Two hands later, I raised 3x BB with A9s and he shoved again! Had to call due to pot odds this time and he showed 88 finishing my tourney there. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:54 PM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

owned! lol

JK, this is an easy call. Really surprises me he had AA here.
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Old 01-29-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

Maybe he thought it was still the rebuy period [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 01-29-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

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I didn't really think anyone would play AA this way. but the problem was, this guy sucked.

[/ QUOTE ]I'll admit to playing AA this way once before, but the original raiser was a total donk and I thought he'd call (he did with A2o).

As for your hand, I think this is AK about 80% of the time, and the thought of folding wouldn't even enter my mind. However, you need to learn to suck out better [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:09 PM
Rusty Nails Rusty Nails is offline
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

I play AA like this frequently in < $10's, during the first half hour. It's amazing how often I get called by AJ or 55.
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

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How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

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why is it stupid?

i would fold.
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

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How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

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why is it stupid?

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Because you can get more action when you have KK/AA and are only getting called by a better hand when you have TT/JJ/QQ/AK.
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

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Giant reraises usually means 'I have a pretty big hand but got no idea how to play it postflop (and my postflop skills suck, lol)', typically TT-QQ, AQ+. I would call without much hesitation here.

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the fact that many players agree with you is part of the reason why pushing KK and sometimes AA and AK can be a decent play for the villain here.
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

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Because you can get more action when you have KK/AA and are only getting called by a better hand when you have TT/JJ/QQ/AK.

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it's hard to get more action than all-in preflop with a dominating hand.

KK is a great hand to push here. if you think he might call, by all means, push AA too. pushing AK sometimes is fine (definitely can't do it every time though).

if you get no callers on your push you should definitely show AA or KK. when it gets down to the end and youre pushing every 6th hand you want it in the back of your opponents' minds that you play this "crazy" with your monsters too.
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Old 01-29-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: How do you interpret a stupidly big reraise allin?

FWIW, if I would have checked pokerdb and seen he was mostly a losing MTT player I probably would have instacalled this even faster
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