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Old 01-28-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: **Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

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I meant to post this earlier. I have to c/f this right? Villain was a solid player.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($107.60)
UTG ($72.10)
MP ($30.85)
Button ($32.85)
Hero ($70.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, BB calls $13.

Flop: ($40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $25</font>, Hero folds.

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Can anyone tell me if this is fine? I highly doubt villain bets here without an A but I could be wrong.

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I think by your 4bet preflop and your check on flop, you turn your hand face up. He could probably bet there with QQ, but I guess you have to lay it down.

Oh and happy bday Matrix!
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:40 AM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default Re: **Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

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I meant to post this earlier. I have to c/f this right? Villain was a solid player.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($107.60)
UTG ($72.10)
MP ($30.85)
Button ($32.85)
Hero ($70.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, BB calls $13.

Flop: ($40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $25</font>, Hero folds.

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Can anyone tell me if this is fine? I highly doubt villain bets here without an A but I could be wrong.

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I think by your 4bet preflop and your check on flop, you turn your hand face up. He could probably bet there with QQ, but I guess you have to lay it down.

Oh and happy bday Matrix!

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Normally I'd bet here but the pot was $40 and a bet would cost me like $20-$30 and I wasn't sure if it was worth it as I'd only get called by a hand that beats me.
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: **Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

But checking here is like open folding.
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:36 AM
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Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.5, 2 players)
SB checks,
Ha, I'm slowplaying my fullhouse. Xpert play!
Hero checks.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($0.5, 2 players)
SB checks,
Oh this card did help ya, didn't it?
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.35</font>, SB calls.
I knew it.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.2, 2 players)
SB checks,
WTF I GOT THE NUTS IM ALL IN YEAH
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $38.65</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $32.05</font>.
HAHA TRICKED YOU, YOUR FLUSH AINT NO GOOD
Uncalled bets: $6.6 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $65.3
<font color="#ffffff">Hero shows 2C 2D </font>
<font color="#ffffff">SB shows KC 5S </font>

Yeah ship it!
WTF where my monies went I [censored] tricked you, what the ......
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: **Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

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I meant to post this earlier. I have to c/f this right? Villain was a solid player.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($107.60)
UTG ($72.10)
MP ($30.85)
Button ($32.85)
Hero ($70.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, BB calls $13.

Flop: ($40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $25</font>, Hero folds.

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Can anyone tell me if this is fine? I highly doubt villain bets here without an A but I could be wrong.

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I think by your 4bet preflop and your check on flop, you turn your hand face up. He could probably bet there with QQ, but I guess you have to lay it down.

Oh and happy bday Matrix!

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Normally I'd bet here but the pot was $40 and a bet would cost me like $20-$30 and I wasn't sure if it was worth it as I'd only get called by a hand that beats me.

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folding is fine - if you bet this flop you are basically going all-in (you're not folding to a $20 turn bet (rest of your stack) when the pot is $120 are you?)

much much better to 4bet all-in preflop and hope he calls you then with AK rather than stick it all in on an A high flop and wind up drawing to possibly 1 solitary out.

Generally speaking you ought to open push these flops rather than check them cos checking is like saying "I have a big pair thats not Aces" He'll snap call with any ace usually - sometimes he might lay down Alittlesooted that he had no business calling preflop with, he'll almost def fold KK/QQ/JJ/TT (which is a fair % of his calling range) but usually he has an Ace here so check folding an A flop isn't terrible- at worst it's a mior mistake - and it's not as tho it's one you can make all that often as this situation only comes up once every 2000 hands dealt or so (getting dealt KK OOP on an A high flop) at most.

much much better to 4bet all-in preflop and hope he calls you then with AK rather than stick it all in on an A high flop and wind up drawing to possibly 1 solitary out.

It's far and away better to just make all your 4bets with good hands pushes (Assuming 100BBish stacks - obv deeper it's not so clever) cos villain is liking his hand enough to 3bet so is less likely to fold and you're usually WA of his calling range with KK.
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: **Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I meant to post this earlier. I have to c/f this right? Villain was a solid player.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($107.60)
UTG ($72.10)
MP ($30.85)
Button ($32.85)
Hero ($70.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, BB calls $13.

Flop: ($40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $25</font>, Hero folds.

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Can anyone tell me if this is fine? I highly doubt villain bets here without an A but I could be wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think by your 4bet preflop and your check on flop, you turn your hand face up. He could probably bet there with QQ, but I guess you have to lay it down.

Oh and happy bday Matrix!

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Now realize why checking this flop in a RR pot when you actually have the Ace is so money... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-28-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: **Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

Yah imahomo - I do that a lot, betting the turn if they check behind will get them to call a lot [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: **Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

how many people play more than 4 tables? After last nights tilt fest I decided to just play 10 nl and practice more tables. I usually play 4 but was 9 tabling. I played 1.2 hours and my arm is exhausted! I have a 19" LCD so there is some overlap between each table and obv they are all pretty small.
Averaging $37 bucks an hour I'm just gonna have to move down and get a second monitor :P
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Old 01-28-2007, 01:51 PM
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how many people play more than 4 tables? After last nights tilt fest I decided to just play 10 nl and practice more tables. I usually play 4 but was 9 tabling. I played 1.2 hours and my arm is exhausted! I have a 19" LCD so there is some overlap between each table and obv they are all pretty small.
Averaging $37 bucks an hour I'm just gonna have to move down and get a second monitor :P

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I play between 6-12. I have a 20" Samsung and a 15" Dell that came with my computer when I got it. You get used to moving your arm a lot and I can handle 12 and still chat on AIM/browse 2+2 even though it's not smart.

Start by adding a 5th table, then when you feel comfortable, add a 6th. So on til you get to 9 - don't jump from 4 to 9, you'll hurt yourself.
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:01 PM
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No pain no gain.
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