hiv and shaundeeb are total scum

[ASPoker8]

fnord. I believe HIV started said thread bragging that he would accept one of the challengers to play.

[fnord_too]

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btw, i believe tongni is waaaaaay more to blame than hiv. tongni should know better. hiv, whatever, who can blame him?

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I agree. HIV is obviously a young, desperate degen with little control who is easily manipulated.

[PITTM]

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btw, i believe tongni is waaaaaay more to blame than hiv. tongni should know better. hiv, whatever, who can blame him?

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agree.

rj

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uhhh hello i made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR i thought they were pathetic scum.

ABUNDANTLY.

[sweetjazz]

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Can we say there's a difference between

a)Tongni playing on HIV's account,
b)Tongni playing on HIV's account and, say, posting an NVG or BBV thread entitled "HIV SITTING AT 1K/2K STARS GOGOGOGOGO",
and c)Tongni playing on HIV's account and having HIV actively set up HU matches vs. him?


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Yes, there is a difference in these three cases, specifically how likely the person affected is going to be associated with 2+2. But, as El Diablo has already pointed out, something doesn't become more wrong when the victim is you or your friend.

It is pretty pathetic that there is not 100% unanimity on the fact that a) is a pure angle-shoot. Not to ride too hard on you nath (because sadly I think your attitude is reflective of much of 2+2's views), but EVEN ONE OF THE VICTIMS doesn't think it is too scummy to angle-shoot others, as long as you don't know them on an internet message board.

Obviously I am not naive enough to believe that this behavior doesn't happen on a frequent basis. But that is irrelevant to the fact that it an angle-shoot, pure and simple. And sadly, it's not just desperate gamblers who are in heavy debt who are resorting to angle-shooting. Now it's winning players who decide to do it for laughs or just because they think they can. In fact, they are so cavalier about it that they continue to ham it up once discovered as if what they did was just a funny prank.

[Gildwulf]

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If you want to call GW scummy for taking advantage of a degenerate, that is perfectly fine.

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This is a ridiculous argument. If a fish calls me out to play am I not supposed to play against him because I'm a better player? AK, If you think this way then you might as well quit poker because you are taking advantage of these people all the time.

[felix83]

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btw, i believe tongni is waaaaaay more to blame than hiv. tongni should know better. hiv, whatever, who can blame him?

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this is really inexplicable behaviour and sympathy that I find shocking. I guess it took 10k of HIV's money for many 2p2ers' true colors to come out.

nath, I've generally been entertained by your threads in the past, but you have showed yourself to be a good person of high moral fibre, and I respect the [censored] out of you for that. Even though I've never had any interaction with you before, I can already tell you I would trust you more than many people I know IRL.

[Yeti]

gild,

I am not saying you are scummy. I would likely do the same. I just wouldn't be morally outraged when something like this happens, in fact I would have expected it and probably found it pretty amusing.

[ASPoker8]

I think anyone defending Tongni/HIV here is out of line and looking for some drama/devils advocate.

-In all such cases, HIV challenged Gildwulf.
-HIV started the thread requesting ppl to post their current stakes/what they wanted to play/and what stakes they wanted to play v him.
-GW only played HIV after HIV challenged him, then bragged/made fun of HIV after the match (which imo is no big deal when considering the dynamics)

[Yeti]

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nath, I've generally been entertained by your threads in the past, but you have showed yourself to be a good person of high moral fibre, and I respect the [censored] out of you for that. Even though I've never had any interaction with you before, I can already tell you I would trust you more than many people I know IRL.

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have you learned nothing from this thread?