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Old 01-04-2007, 10:53 AM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default Re: Such a sick sick spot 5/10 hand

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whats up with the flop bet? Do you really bet 165 there with AA/QQ/AQ?

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um, yeah. cbetting 1/2 to 2/3 is pretty standard in reraised.
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Old 01-04-2007, 10:59 AM
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grooooooss preflop 3-bet.

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yeah i know. I was in preflop aggro mode but soon as I repopped I knew it was bad hand to do it with vs an UTG+ opener.
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Old 01-04-2007, 11:10 AM
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check flop, turn check is good, c/f river
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:38 PM
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grooooooss preflop 3-bet.

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yeah i know. I was in preflop aggro mode but soon as I repopped I knew it was bad hand to do it with vs an UTG+ opener.

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Is that because we're in deep trouble if we're called? I feel like in a 6max game I'm 3betting KQs against a 27/21 a lot since I think it's ahead of his range and he'll call me pre a bit light, but am I just setting myself up for a reverse implied odds situation? When HEK and MDMA strongly disagree with something I do frequently, I know that's a bad sign for me, but I want to understand the reasoning. Better to do it with 87s or 66 or QQ, but not middling strength hands?
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:56 PM
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hek ive played with you a fair amount, not a lot by any means. but yea you are suchhhhh a station. good thing i am not playin ftp anymore so i mean its not like your knowledge of what i think of you matters. if i hit a flush there i would 100% be expected you to call there regardless of your hand heh.
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Old 01-04-2007, 01:56 PM
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I was also surprised that 2 solid posters agreed 3betting KQs was bad. I'm guessing their reasoning is that if called, its possible they are dominated. However in my opinion this doesn't matter, and I think 3betting is a fine play.

I just play 2/4 but here are my thoughts - first of all, 3betting means I'll pick up the pot over half the time preflop. If called by a smaller pair, over half the time they'll c/f to my cbet, especially on a broadway card or A-high board. If they happen to have AK (or AQ, but many will fold AQ to the 3bet, making it less likely that you are dominated), again you'll likely get them to fold the best hand if they miss the flop.

Any hand I will cold call with pre, I normally 3bet at least 50% of the time, and believe this is hugely profitable at these stakes. I'd like to hear why MDMA and HEK disagree.
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Old 01-04-2007, 02:35 PM
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because vilian is opening UTG+1, not from a steal position. We will be out of position in a raised pot vs a good player with a dominated hand. Yes, 66, 67s, QQ, 910, whatever is better than a hand like KQ, QJ, AJ etc.

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Thanks...really.
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Old 01-04-2007, 02:35 PM
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I'd say shove > c/f > c/c. I assume the PF reraise is bad because since we're BB there's less need for it, and because we're deepish and the opener should have a relatively tight range from that spot. I still don't really mind it though.
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Old 01-04-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Such a sick sick spot 5/10 hand

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I was also surprised that 2 solid posters agreed 3betting KQs was bad. I'm guessing their reasoning is that if called, its possible they are dominated. However in my opinion this doesn't matter, and I think 3betting is a fine play.

I just play 2/4 but here are my thoughts - first of all, 3betting means I'll pick up the pot over half the time preflop. If called by a smaller pair, over half the time they'll c/f to my cbet, especially on a broadway card or A-high board. If they happen to have AK (or AQ, but many will fold AQ to the 3bet, making it less likely that you are dominated), again you'll likely get them to fold the best hand if they miss the flop.

Any hand I will cold call with pre, I normally 3bet at least 50% of the time, and believe this is hugely profitable at these stakes. I'd like to hear why MDMA and HEK disagree.

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Ok im noob here but wouldnt that reasoning imply 3-betting with 32o is also profitable?
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Old 01-04-2007, 02:45 PM
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Sure if you're deep enough. We're not in this case.
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