Please list PokerStars complaints

[Tuff_Fish]

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I think the main problem with all the sites is that you shouldn't be allowed to use any aids (PokerTracker, PAHUD) whilst playing. It's OK to go over your PokerTracker AFTER the session. The casual player doesn't stand a chance and it's not a level playing field at all. You're not allowed to use computer aids in a live casino, why should you online? Never mind the UIGEA, 12-tabling computer savvy grinders using all the aids are the real threat to the future of online poker.

If you're going to allow PokerTracker whilst in play you should have a disclaimer when new players join that other players are using this and you should get one yourself. That would only be fair.


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I agree 100 percent with all of this. I think many players are under the false impression that they should never lose - well, if recreational players get sheared each and every time they log in, they will not enjoy themselves and will ultimately not return (possibly bc of being busto, possibly bc they get no positive reinforcement). Truly recreational players are NOT given a good gamble online, and I think that is one of the reasons the games are (at best) not what they used to be and at worst, terrible.

Jeff

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Joy, the light of knowledge is spreading.

Tuff

[Tuff_Fish]

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Stars makes millions a day, pay no taxes (or an insignificant amount if any) and to the owners is not a question of surviving but only of racking as much as possible. If they have to close so be it, they have enough cash for the next 30 generations right? So it must be obvious that for the moment the plan must be to keep happy the 5/10.000 nits they have, those that pay rake at 8/12 tables simultaniously, and avoid extra expenses and risks until the situation has been clarified.
The games stink, they know it but why should they care? They make millions a day as it is, 1 or 2 more is not going to make any difference to them and they rather stay out of trouble for as long as possible.

You are all so desperate about the fish disappearing, the games getting horrible that you refuse to see things as they really are.

Yes, the lack of fish is bad, the non-advertising policy is bad, the aids they allow are bad, but that's what they have got and from that they make millions a day. If you had trizillions in the bank and could keep making the kind of money they make for as long as posssible or risk to be shut down for trying to do what is best for the players, what would you chose?

Can't think of any good reason? Seems to me that you are in total denial (you in general).

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More truth.

Tuff

[Tuff_Fish]

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Winning players and the few addicts will always find their way to the tables. The problem is Mr. "I have a nice job and want to donate a few hundreds 3 times a week". Those players are the ones that either leave or become "I have a nice job and want to donate a few tens of $ 3 times a week". Then "I have a nice job and can play you nits even 3 times a week". and finally, "I have a nice job and can beat you 12 tabling a$$holes 3 times a week".


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gg

Tuff

[MicroBob]

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Lee,

Your site programmers will probably go into anaphalactic shock with these, but.......

Bounty Button - Have a bounty button that players can click that would put them in a voluntary "Bounty Pool". All players that select participation would have their ID backlit in a noticeably different color.

Las Longer Bets - Same idea, but a last longer pool.

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Reminds me of a live tournament I've played a couple times at the Horseshoe-Tunica.

It's $100+$25+$10 or something.

$100 into the prize-pool and $25 into the bounty-pool ($10 entry-fee).

Every player you knock-out you get $25.
Pretty fun actually and I think could be popular on a site like Stars.

Other bounty-type structures could be worth exploring too.

[Misfire]

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Where the hell are the ads running constantly assuring US players that Stars is still open?

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[MicroBob]

1. I'm not sure you can run such an ad on U.S. tv. It would really be pushing that fine-line about what the stations would be willing to tolerate. As it is now, they can only get away with advertising the dot-net 'learn how to play' side.

2. Stars was even reluctant to admit on their site that they were going to be 'still open' because they didn't think that many people were aware of it anyway.
They finally put it in their little pop-up thingee. but, at first, they said nothing.
Meanwhile, I think we all have more and more stories of meeting people who are 'pretty sure' that it's completely illegal now and that there's no possible way to play internet-poker in the U.S.

XMas Party dinner with my GF's co-workers. First thing on non-poker player says to me when he learns that's what I do is, "I heard they had made it illegal or something."

I've even chimed-in during Stars chat-window conversations where some players would say, "First the U.S. government was able to kick-out Party. Only a matter of time before they make Stars illegal too."

Lots of misconceptions out there. and while I don't think that Stars can do too much on U.S. tv about it (maybe on financial talk-shows or CNN or something, but not via advertisements) I do think there's more they can do on their OWN site to re-assure their customers that everything is hunky-dorey and that everyone should TELL THEIR FRIENDS that they can come play at Stars.

[ImsaKidd]

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You're not allowed to use computer aids in a live casino, why should you online? Never mind the UIGEA, 12-tabling computer savvy grinders using all the aids are the real threat to the future of online poker.



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Never mind the UIGEA, 12-tabling computer savvy grinders using all the aids are the real threat to the future of online poker.

I see I am not the lone voice in the wilderness.

I play for entertainment. 12 Tabling grinders are not entertaining. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Tuff Fish

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I'll be 12 tabling within a month. Holla.

Not all multitablers are good. FGators is a prime example. Let them bleed away $$ faster.

[Etric]

Edit: Issue taken care of.

[AustroDONK]

I would like for stars to put in a VIP Level that is attainable for a micro stakes player- below the Silver... 1500 FPP is a lot playing 5/10c limit even if you do play most of your poker at stars.

[OnlinePro]

online poker the way we use to know it is over. We are now going to struggle to find a decent game. I am personally going to change my habits of playing online. Instead of 10 tabling the 5 10 games I am just going to look for a fishy 15 30 or 30 60 game to go into and just play there as long as its fishy and then get off as soon as the fish leave. I am not going to pay 10 tables of rake to play with a bunch of good players.

The 5 10 on stars is rediculous same 8 players on all tables and maybe 2 fish if your lucky. My stats have gone down to 11VPIP and 10PFR, because when its a bunch of 15, 9's at the table and its a UTG raise there is few hands you can play. I would never play under these conditions but just trying to hit NOVA before the year ends. I cant find a good game anymore, if you do see a good game there is 7 people on the waiting list and by the time you get a seat in the game the fish has already went busto.

I live in Los angeles and play at the Commerce every night and the tables here are going crazy. It use to be if you got 3 tables of 40 80 going after midnight you were lucky, now after the law there is 10 tables going. There are hundreds of people I have met who have recently moved from out of state into Los angeles because they cant make it anymore playing online.

Online poker is going to be done, unless stars really does some big moves to gain some new players it is going to be over. Before with the amounts of fish spread out between party and stars you were able to make it. Now all the fish are gone but all the good players from party have moved to stars so that has increased the good players by over 100% and the fish are decreasing by the day. Count this along with the bots and no rakeback, no bonuses.

Stars definately needs a good affiliate program. if there was 1 thing they needed more than anything else it is that. Website like PokersourceOnline can bring in over 5,000 players per month to stars. And that is just one affiliate, imagine with all the affiliate out there how big stars can be. This is if they choose to go big or if they choose to play it safe then we are all done, I have already begun to take out my bankrolls from online sites and move it into my player banks at Casinos.