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Old 12-21-2006, 09:41 PM
chuckleslovakian chuckleslovakian is offline
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

Curtains plays 34.Qg3

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3 Re8
17. e3 Rc8
18. Qd3 d4
19. exd4 Qd5+
20. Qf3 Rc2
21. Bf4 Ne4
22. Be3 Rc6
23. Kg1 Rf6
24. Qg2 h5
25. Rac1 h4
26. Rc5 Qd6
27. Re5 Rxe5
28. dxe5 Qxe5
29. Rc1 Nc3
30. Re1 Rc6
31. Qf3 h3
32. g4 Nxa2
33. Qxh3 Qe6
34. Qg3

Curtains

PoG

It is now PoGs turn
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:24 PM
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34...Qxb3

we've got it locked up yo
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Old 12-21-2006, 11:18 PM
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34. ... Qxb3 35. Qb8+ Kh7 36. Qxa7

I don't think we're much better off
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:44 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
34. ... Qxb3 35. Qb8+ Kh7 36. Qxa7

I don't think we're much better off

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I agree, we are not better off in this line.

Keeping our queen at e6 hitting the g-pawn will stop him from checking us and taking either the a or b pawns. (He's not trading "g" for "a or b") So if that's true what non-queen move can we make to improve our position.
Rc3,Rc2,a6,a5, how does the horsey move again?
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Old 12-22-2006, 01:10 AM
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34. ... Qxb3 35. Qb8+ Kh7 36. Qxa7

I don't think we're much better off

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but then we have 36...Qb4 with a double attack on the rook and g4 pawn, which we will take with check. He doesn't have time to take on a7 in this line.
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Old 12-22-2006, 09:21 AM
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34...Qxb3 leads to nothing after 35.Bxa7 Qxg3+ (what else?) 36.hxg3 b5 37.Re8+ Kh7 38.Rb8.

I suggest 34...Nc3 to improve our position (and control d1). After 35.Qb8+ Rc8 36.Qxb7 Qxg4+ 37.Kh1 Ne4 our position looks very, very promising, so we don't have to waste time to avoid his option Qb8+ now.
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Old 12-22-2006, 10:32 AM
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34. ... Qxb3 35. Qb8+ Kh7 36. Qxa7

I don't think we're much better off

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but then we have 36...Qb4 with a double attack on the rook and g4 pawn, which we will take with check. He doesn't have time to take on a7 in this line.

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so do you like Qxb3 tim?
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Old 12-22-2006, 10:48 AM
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of course, Qxb3 is the win
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Old 12-22-2006, 02:37 PM
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34...Qxb3 leads to nothing after 35.Bxa7 Qxg3+ (what else?) 36.hxg3 b5 37.Re8+ Kh7 38.Rb8.

I suggest 34...Nc3 to improve our position (and control d1). After 35.Qb8+ Rc8 36.Qxb7 Qxg4+ 37.Kh1 Ne4 our position looks very, very promising, so we don't have to waste time to avoid his option Qb8+ now.

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At the end of the 34...Qxb3 line there is either 38...b4 or 38...Nc3, but I can see how it might be hard to get this pawn going any further.

34...Nc3 looks good too, after 35.Qb8+ Kh7 might be even better than Rc8.

Also possible is just 34...Rc8, which renews the threat of taking on b3.

I'll have to look some more and see which I like best.
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Old 12-22-2006, 02:50 PM
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34...Qxb3 leads to nothing after 35.Bxa7 Qxg3+ (what else?) 36.hxg3 b5 37.Re8+ Kh7 38.Rb8.

I suggest 34...Nc3 to improve our position (and control d1). After 35.Qb8+ Rc8 36.Qxb7 Qxg4+ 37.Kh1 Ne4 our position looks very, very promising, so we don't have to waste time to avoid his option Qb8+ now.

[/ QUOTE ]

At the end of the 34...Qxb3 line there is either 38...b4 or 38...Nc3, but I can see how it might be hard to get this pawn going any further.

34...Nc3 looks good too, after 35.Qb8+ Kh7 might be even better than Rc8.

Also possible is just 34...Rc8, which renews the threat of taking on b3.

I'll have to look some more and see which I like best.

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With nothing I mean that we won't be able to make progress and the result will be a draw while I think that atm black is better.

I don't like 34...Rc8 because Qb8+ is no threat and the rook on c6 also hinders a pawn advance g4-g5-g6.
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