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| Call with the intention of firing an okay flop (one king + rags) |
   
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3 | 11.11% |
| Meh, call. Better than 1:2 and it's AQ, dude. |
  
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2 | 7.41% |
| Fold you fool! You will prob miss the flop and are OOP! Run away! |
  
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2 | 7.41% |
| Don't be a pussy, raise it up! |
  
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20 | 74.07% |
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#31
12-04-2006, 03:17 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
Okay you [censored] seriously need to change this silly Free Dan Bright avatar 'cause I can't tell who the [censored] is talking.
Requin I think your analysis is spot on - don't forget that cts is capable of turning hands he was calling with for value into bluffs on the river. 
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#32
12-04-2006, 03:20 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
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Check turn all day. [/ QUOTE ] Eh, am I reading this right? [ QUOTE ] Yes, betting is awkward--he has to fold worse hands except for combo draws. [/ QUOTE ] This is not a reason enough not to bet. Do you see why?
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#33
12-04-2006, 03:22 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
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don't forget that cts is capable of turning hands he was calling with for value into bluffs on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I think this is very important to consider espec vs someone as good as him
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#34
12-04-2006, 03:22 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
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[ QUOTE ] Check turn all day. [/ QUOTE ] Eh, am I reading this right? [ QUOTE ] Yes, betting is awkward--he has to fold worse hands except for combo draws. [/ QUOTE ] This is not a reason enough not to bet. Do you see why? [/ QUOTE ] Because you want to charge draws, so protection is a concern as well as value? I thought it would be implicit in my statement that I like c/r all in that we can expect a bet some% from worse hands and draws.
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#35
12-04-2006, 03:23 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
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Okay you [censored] seriously need to change this silly Free Dan Bright avatar 'cause I can't tell who the [censored] is talking. Requin I think your analysis is spot on - don't forget that cts is capable of turning hands he was calling with for value into bluffs on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think he'd do that here with a king.
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#36
12-04-2006, 03:27 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
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[ QUOTE ] Okay you [censored] seriously need to change this silly Free Dan Bright avatar 'cause I can't tell who the [censored] is talking. Requin I think your analysis is spot on - don't forget that cts is capable of turning hands he was calling with for value into bluffs on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think he'd do that here with a king. [/ QUOTE ] as i said before i think he might a fair amount with a K maybe 30%, almost def. with Txdd... but that' still a small part of his range and i still think a c/f is appropriate
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#38
12-04-2006, 03:38 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
this hand is v weird... i would have gone for the stack a donk on the turn if i was op. cts prob float on those flops a decent amount of times and figures that op can't check a strong hand to him the turn on a draw heavy board, therefore would prob bet a lot of hands on the turn that AA beats, and i can beat him into the pot and laugh to the bank
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#39
12-04-2006, 04:18 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
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[ QUOTE ] if your title is any indication of how he views you, i would check/call. if you were very aggressive and always fighting for pots, then i'd be pushing [/ QUOTE ] Ding ding ding. Don't ever fold aces in this spot to cts. He's sick enough to have a set here sometimes, but please don't do it - I don't think he's calling two streets with a naked flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] I think this describes more or less what I was thinking before I made my decision, we were playing quite aggressively taking down pots postflop before this hand came up so I doubt he views me as a nit, but I don't think he views me as LAG either. I think AK/KQ are definitely within his range here, I really doubt hes calling the turn w/ a set or two pair, so its between a combo draw that has just got there or some TPTK/TPGK. I decided it was between pushing or c/c'ing as I was not folding so I chose to push as it was more likely he would make a crying call w/ top pair then he would push a lesser hand, maybe I am wrong in that assumption. He called with T8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
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#40
12-04-2006, 04:24 PM
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Re: bullets vs cts, river action?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] if your title is any indication of how he views you, i would check/call. if you were very aggressive and always fighting for pots, then i'd be pushing [/ QUOTE ] Ding ding ding. Don't ever fold aces in this spot to cts. He's sick enough to have a set here sometimes, but please don't do it - I don't think he's calling two streets with a naked flush draw. [/ QUOTE ] I think this describes more or less what I was thinking before I made my decision, we were playing quite aggressively taking down pots postflop before this hand came up so I doubt he views me as a nit, but I don't think he views me as LAG either. I think AK/KQ are definitely within his range here, I really doubt hes calling the turn w/ a set or two pair, so its between a combo draw that has just got there or some TPTK/TPGK. I decided it was between pushing or c/c'ing as I was not folding so I chose to push as it was more likely he would make a crying call w/ top pair then he would push a lesser hand, maybe I am wrong in that assumption. He called with T8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. [/ QUOTE ] dude, all of your logic in this post, specifically you thought you were beat or he would not push a worse hand, suggest check/folding!
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