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Old 11-23-2006, 05:13 PM
joker122 joker122 is offline
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haven't read any other posts.

checkraising this flop is pretty bad. a CR here epitomizes the leak that held me back for hundreds of thousands of hands.

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I'm guessing you say this because by checkraising, I allow him to play perfectly? If so, I disagree, because I am also checkraising a much wider range including hands such as 22, 98s and others from time to time.

If there is another reason why you say this, please explain.

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that makes sense.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:18 PM
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Busen - why are you playing 1/2 if you are so good?

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Why do we have this discussion? And why do you don't clic the link above to get a clue about what you ask? Is it hard to keep to the subject or you would like more people who are tired on spam of irrelevant factors?

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Congratulations. It's very rare I take such an instant dislike to a new poster.
The only thing I have found hard to do is follow your incoherent English.
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Old 11-23-2006, 06:40 PM
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DasBusen,

Leader > you

Your range is so ridiculously tight that, no matter what you say, there's no way any of us can sanely believe you have any experience in this game (or at least enough to give meaningful analysis).
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Old 11-23-2006, 07:57 PM
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"I could probably count the number of river bluff raises I've seen against me at 5/10 and 8/16 in the last 20K on one hand"

you only see the ones you snap.

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It's not like I'm betting the river with hands I an fold to a raise much.
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Old 11-23-2006, 08:09 PM
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"I could probably count the number of river bluff raises I've seen against me at 5/10 and 8/16 in the last 20K on one hand"

you only see the ones you snap.

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It's not like I'm betting the river with hands I an fold to a raise much.

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if you're folding KJ to a raise here then when you bet this river, you're folding to a raise the vast majority of the time. the only thing you wouldn't be folding is something like A6s or better where you either make a pair of aces on the river or you flopped a set and turned a boat or quads. these hands are obviously rare so you really are bet/folding almost every single hand you play like this, unless you were 3-barrel bluffing...

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Old 11-23-2006, 08:24 PM
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AA/KK/AK are all in my range here too because I don't cap OOP. Regardless though even if bluffing is right for him, he isn't doing it. If this was 10/20, I'd through in a bet. At 2/4 I think it's an obvious fold against a TAG even if he is a little LAG.

edit to say I was talking generally in the op not just about this hand.
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:27 PM
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you should call this river raise against me!

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Not even against you would this be correct.
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Old 11-24-2006, 04:48 AM
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you should call this river raise against me!

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Not even against you would this be correct.

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but it would be. the reason is that unless you are a retard i will respect your flop and turn play enough that i will fold before i have a chance to pair my ace here. sometimes i will end up getting to the river with AQ, but yeah in general i am not seeing the river with that hand. so i have no reason to actually have an ace unless it was with a hand like A6s which i wouldnt 3-bet preflop.

soooo yes, call me because i have 88-QQ and possibly a KT/KJ hand and because i wont see the river most of the time with just an unpaired ace hand.
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Old 11-24-2006, 06:13 AM
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you should call this river raise against me!

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Not even against you would this be correct.

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but it would be. the reason is that unless you are a retard i will respect your flop and turn play enough that i will fold before i have a chance to pair my ace here. sometimes i will end up getting to the river with AQ, but yeah in general i am not seeing the river with that hand. so i have no reason to actually have an ace unless it was with a hand like A6s which i wouldnt 3-bet preflop.

soooo yes, call me because i have 88-QQ and possibly a KT/KJ hand and because i wont see the river most of the time with just an unpaired ace hand.

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