Super System Hand involving Doyle Brunson...

[Hollywade]

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The fish was holding poket 4's and the "pellican" was holding pocket 2's. Quad 2's lose to quad 4's on the river, all the while Doyle dumps Aces full of 2's when he's now beat. What are your thoughts on this hand?

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...that it sounds made up.

[TxRedMan]

i've heard a story of doyle and chip being highly scrutinized by the bellagio eye in the sky during the big game, and being asked to leave at one point, although it wasn't permanent.

[MikeyG80]

If Bellagio had a problem with Reese and Brunson as mentioned, what would be the reason? At a blackjack table you can be a card counter, at tables like craps and roulette, people have stolen chips from someone who is not paying attention. In a cash game with people like reese and brunson, what was the problem where they had to be asked to leave???

[andyfox]

I doubt it. If anything's going on, one would think the Bellagio would know about it.

Andy Beal insisted on playing the "corporation" head up.

[bbbushu]

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Let's see. I use to play the Bellagio 80-160 game on the regular (it's since migrated fulltime to 100-200) and I think I remember this hand from about two years ago.

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The hand discussed in SS2 took place in a Texas road game in the 60's or 70's when 80/160 was a huge game.

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definitely a setup then, no way this could happen twice by chance.

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great success

[I.Rowboat]

In the interest of at least getting the story right:

The hand the OP is discussing is mentioned in the SS2 introduction written by Crandall Addington. It took place in the early 60's at a cardroom in Texas. As Addington said in his intro, the game was typically NL but on certain nights they played LHE, and 80/160 LHE was a big game for those times.

For the hand in question, the game was 3 handed, and (as the story was told), DB had AA. It was capped PF. The flop was A42r, and it was capped on the flop. When the board paired on the turn, Dolye led (IIRC) and then folded when it was two more bets back to him. The board paired again on the river, and quad 2's lost to quad 4's.

[Lestat]

This hand must've been from a while ago. You can fold that hand in today's games, because the range of hands your opponents could have are so much wider. Also, the aggressiveness with which they'll play non-nut hands has gone way up.

In a typical 80/160 game today, that would be an absolutely horrific fold.

[Lestat]

There are so many holes in this story, not the least of which is that none of these people (those still alive), would've been caught dead playing for the chump change limit of 80/160 two years ago.

[PJ94z]

I have SS1 and SS2. I think I remember reading about this hand.


1 - No way did he lay down Aces full in a 3 handed game.


2 - if he did, isn't that a "bad" laydown as it's short handed and you're playing against known LAG players?
Surely a fold here is -EV.

So either way...its some BS ...or just crappy advice like most of the SS lol

[Mikey]

what doyle is letting u know is that there is just more to this game other than the cards u hold. there is somryhing called intuition.