Curtains vs PoG

[StregaChess]

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19...Qd5+ 20.Kg1 Ng4 21.Bf4

And now:


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If he does not fall apart at the seams he may very well play 20. f3 in reply to 19.. Qd5+ and use f2 for his rook. It may appears awkward but he's up a pawn, so he's allowed to be a bit backwards for now...

[ChrisV]

If ... Qd5+, f3 and now what?

I quite like the following line:

... Re5 and now the pawn must be defended, by either Rd1, Be3 or Bb2.

now ... Qd5, and the threat of discovered check forces either:

(1) f3 Rg5, and now we have the queen right where we want it, the passed pawn is blockaded, and we have shifted a rook over to begin attacking the K-side.

(2) Kg1 Re8, and we can double rooks on the e-file.

I don't know though... the rook is pretty precarious looking on g5.

[TimM]

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If he does not fall apart at the seams he may very well play 20. f3 in reply to 19.. Qd5+ and use f2 for his rook. It may appears awkward but he's up a pawn, so he's allowed to be a bit backwards for now...

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We have a lot of good choices against 20.f3. I don't really think it's best.

I looked at 20...Qc6 maybe intending Qc2. Also 20...Rc6 and doubling rook ideas only gain by having the pawn on f3. And 20...Nd7 is still possible too.

[ScottHoward]

ive changed my mind
i like ne4 now
if somebody smart can tell me whites reply to ne4, that would help me see why im stupid.

[StregaChess]

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ive changed my mind
i like ne4 now
if somebody smart can tell me whites reply to ne4, that would help me see why im stupid.

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Damn if you had asked for someone with a half way decent rating I'd have replied, since you asked for someone smart I guess I better shut up....

I’m just an underachieving idiot savant trying to make a buck in the world….

Yes Ne4 is worth considering too... we have lots of reasonable choices...

[NajdorfDefense]

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ive changed my mind
i like ne4 now
if somebody smart can tell me whites reply to ne4, that would help me see why im stupid.

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Achieves nothing after Re1 Rc6
Qb5.

[ScottHoward]

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Achieves nothing after Re1 Rc3
Qb5.

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what happens after qb5..a6?
or is a6 very awful at that point?

[NajdorfDefense]

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If he does not fall apart at the seams he may very well play 20. f3 in reply to 19.. Qd5+ and use f2 for his rook. It may appears awkward but he's up a pawn, so he's allowed to be a bit backwards for now...

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We have a lot of good choices against 20.f3. I don't really think it's best.

I looked at 20...Qc6 maybe intending Qc2. Also 20...Rc6 and doubling rook ideas only gain by having the pawn on f3. And 20...Nd7 is still possible too.

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I think f3 is best for him after Qd5+
f3 Rc6
Bd2 finally linking his rooks.

Rc6 still seems like the superior move here, as we are not sure if the Q belongs on b6, d7 or d5. Qd5 I think is mistakenly overanxious and denies that square to our Knight.

If now...Rc6 then perhaps White responds with
Be3 Qd7
Rfe1 Rec8 seizing the c-file, followed by Nd5 knocking his bishop off e3/f4 [the best squares for his B], then Nb4 with our rooks coming to rest on c2 and his second rank.

His dark-squared B cannot defend c2. That is the weakest point in his position, so we must go after it. With a rook on c2 his a2 and f2 are very week, and a later Qd5+ leaves his f-pawn pinned. At a minimum, we can win back the excess a-pawn and create a passed pawn on the Queenside where our pieces would dominate. [Also his Bishop cannot defend the queening square b1, so should we get a passed pawn on that file that could be an advantage for us.]

Naj

[NajdorfDefense]

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Achieves nothing after Re1 Rc6
Qb5.

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what happens after qb5..a6?
or is a6 very awful at that point?

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He takes our b-pawn and now we are two pawns down.

[ScottHoward]

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He takes our b-pawn and now we are two pawns down.

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pawns suck !